Trump kicked off Colorado ballot

[Twilight Hue]

Figures the leftist socialist communists creed is forever one party one voice, no competition against them.

Just like Xi. Their glorious hero and lover they look up to....

 

[Kenny]

As I noted in another thread ...

As I noted before, all the attacks against Trump only helps Trump. It is the attacks that gives him the advantage.

 

[PureX]

As I noted before, all the attacks against Trump only helps Trump. It is the attacks that gives him the advantage.

If laws "attack" criminals, and some people like criminals, ...

 

[crossfire]

The question remains: who decides if Trump violated his oath of office to uphold the Constitution and then tried to interfere with the process of verifying electors as enumerated in Amendment XII of the Constitution?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Figures the leftist socialist communists creed is forever one party one voice, no competition against them.

Just like Xi. Their glorious hero and lover they look up to....

Neither China nor any form of communism had any connection with this court decision.
You are trying to deflect the reason for the decision by introducing a a red herring.

The court decision was based on Trump's violation of the constitution not politics.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Neither China nor any form of communism had any connection with this court decision.
You are trying to deflect the reason for the decision by introducing a a red herring.

The court decision was based on Trump's violation of the constitution not politics.

It's an attempt to remove one's political opponents. Typical of the radical leftist playbook.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm no fan of Trump but this does seem to tip things unjustly into Democrats' favor.

How is it unjust when Trump engaged in treason against the United States?

 

[PureX]

The question remains: who decides if Trump violated his oath of office to uphold the Constitution and then tried to interfere with the process of verifying electors as enumerated in Amendment XII of the Constitution?

The courts decide. But now they have been corrupted, too. So ... no one will.

My thought is that we all know that Trump is willing to lie and cheat to win. He's been doing it all his life and he has done it for all the world to witness regarding the last presidential election. He clearly does not care who the people want, or vote for. And that in itself should completely disqualify him from ever running for any public office. But the people that support him don't care about what their fellow citizens want or vote for, either. Like Trump, all they care about is winning (control).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's an attempt to remove one's political opponents. Typical of the radical leftist playbook.

So rules for thee but not for me.

 

[SalixIncendium]

How is it unjust when Trump engaged in treason against the United States?

I answered this in post #16.

 

[SalixIncendium]

So rules for thee but not for me.

I'm really feeling too lazy to put up a mod post on this not being a debate forum, which I've already mentioned once. Can we please keep this to a discussion about the decision without injecting political bias? I've already asked once in this thread.

 

[PureX]

I'm really feeling too lazy to put up a mod post on this not being a debate forum, which I've already mentioned once. Can we please keep this to a discussion about the decision without injecting political bias? I've already asked once in this thread.

How do you envision that being possible?

 

[SalixIncendium]

How do you envision that being possible?

By respecting another's request and through cooperation? I know it's a lot to ask on RF, but how about we give a go and see if we can actually have an unbiased and respectful political discussion.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I'm not concerned about Trump. I'm concerned about the fairness of the election process.

If he remains on the ballot for the other 49 states and wins the primary, I presume he would remain off the ballot in the general election in that state leaving 9 electoral votes that would default to the Democratic candidate.

I'm not clear on how something like that would work. Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Is not fairness also a question when it comes to the Electoral College and, for that matter, States Rights in general?

(FWIW, I think Colorado has 10 electoral votes.)

 

[Twilight Hue]

So rules for thee but not for me.

What kind of 'free' country does this?

It's really not about Trump, I'm not voting for him anyways, it's about a system where you can just throw any political opponent off the ballot on the basis of yet to be proven accusations and conjecture.

All this tells me is the left is centered on the big centralized state where not the people voting chooses who they want on the ballot in their state, but rather its the government who who decides whom can and cannot be on the ballot all on the basis of yet to be proven facts completely void of due process.

Talk about election interference.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The Washington Post reports:

Vivek Ramaswamy, who is running against Trump for the Republican nomination, said in a statement to The Washington Post: “I pledge to withdraw from the Colorado GOP primary ballot until Trump is also allowed to be on the ballot, and I demand that Ron DeSantis, Chris Christie, and Nikki Haley to do the same immediately — or else they are tacitly endorsing this illegal maneuver which will have disastrous consequences for our country.”​

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“I do not believe Donald Trump should be prevented from being president of the United States by any court,” Christie told a crowd on Tuesday at a New Hampshire town hall. “I think it’s bad for the country,” if that happens, and “I think it would cause a lot of anger” if that choice was taken away, he said.​

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Christie said he had not read the decision, but said it was inappropriate to punish Trump for inciting an insurrection on Jan. 6 without having a criminal trial on that matter.​

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[SalixIncendium]

Is not fairness also a question when it comes to the Electoral College and, for that matter, States Rights in general?

I'm to sure what you mean by fairness as it relates to the Electoral College. To my knowledge, they only vote in the GE, not the primaries.

And state right should matter, IMO, to a point where it will impact election results tipping the scales in favor of one party or another.

(FWIW, I think Colorado has 10 electoral votes.)

It appears you are correct. I thought they had 9.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm no fan of Trump but this does seem to tip things unjustly into Democrats' favor.

Is it unjust?
I can see that it shouldn't legally affect the primaries,
which aren't elections for government office.
But if this is legal, I can't think of a better candidate
to deny running for office...USA's biggest traitor ever.

 

[Wandering Monk]

The lower court in Colorado made a finding of fact that Trump engaged in insurrection. I don't think SCOTUS will dispute that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The lower court in Colorado made a finding of fact that Trump engaged in insurrection. I don't think SCOTUS will dispute that.

No. They didn't make a finding, they just made a decree without trial or jury.