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Trump Paranoia Official?

esmith

Veteran Member
And we all, as Americans, should hang our heads in shame because we have always loved tooting our own horns about how "civilized and modern" we are, yet we still allow for primitive and illogical xenophobia to dictate our lives. We should be better than that, we should know that radical Muslims are only a minority of Muslims, but rather we blame the entire population for what a few have done. Really, it's no different than lingering prejudices against Germans because of the what the Nazis did.
Hmmm, not to change the subject, just to make a comment about your statement. It seems that you feel that we should not blame all Muslims for the actions of what a few have done. Correct? Yet I constantly see your constant righteous demands against firearms, which is based on the actions of a few then blame all firearm owners for the actions of a few. Little hypocritical aren't we?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
She dressed as Malala Yousafzai. She went on to detail her day and just getting to the campus and driving and pretty much going anywhere and the vitriol that came her way. Explained how she had no idea how bad this was, how often it did occur, until she presented herself as Muslim. It was just something she never truly saw the extent of until she walked in those shoes.
And that is really sad too, because Malala Yousafzai represents the face of all those so-called "silent" Muslims who aren't speaking out against groups like ISIS as she herself was the victim of an attempted assassination plot for being a female Muslim who speaks out against the brutality, cruelty, and oppression found in the deeply conservative and fanatic Muslim lands.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yet I constantly see your constant righteous demands against firearms, which is based on the actions of a few then blame all firearm owners for the actions of a few. Little hypocritical aren't we?
What demands? That we train people to safely use and store firearms before we allow them to own a firearm? That we up the enforcement of the laws we have? The we end loopholes and enhance laws to make it more difficult to acquire a gun if you shouldn't have one? Surely you are mistaking me for someone else, because I have never blamed gun owners as a whole (I am way too country to do something like that), but rather gun fanatics who are unwilling to budge on gun regulation and those who just say "oh well, they're called criminals for a reason." I don't care if someone with a record of responsibility who is free of a violent criminal past and mental disorders that may make them a danger to themselves or others owns a gun. I do care that it is so damn easy for just about anyone, even those who have committed murder and have had known connections to potential terrorists, to legally acquire firearms.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What demands? That we train people to safely use and store firearms before we allow them to own a firearm? That we up the enforcement of the laws we have? The we end loopholes and enhance laws to make it more difficult to acquire a gun if you shouldn't have one? Surely you are mistaking me for someone else, because I have never blamed gun owners as a whole (I am way too country to do something like that), but rather gun fanatics who are unwilling to budge on gun regulation and those who just say "oh well, they're called criminals for a reason." I don't care if someone with a record of responsibility who is free of a violent criminal past and mental disorders that may make them a danger to themselves or others owns a gun. I do care that it is so damn easy for just about anyone, even those who have committed murder and have had known connections to potential terrorists, to legally acquire firearms.
Suggestion....
All children should receive training in peaceful coexistence.

An earlier suggestion.....
Any portions of scripture which advocate illegality, particularly violent assault should be prohibited.
Examples:
There is no right to call for the stoning of infidels.
But there is a right to claim that my ilk will burn in the Lake Of Fire.
(That which doesn't exist doesn't matter.)
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Suggestion....
All children should receive training in peaceful coexistence.

An earlier suggestion.....
Any portions of scripture which advocate illegality, particularly violent assault should be prohibited.
Examples:
There is no right to call for the stoning of infidels.
But there is a right to claim that my ilk will burn in the Lake Of Fire.
(That which doesn't exist doesn't matter.)


I agree about childrens education, and also about violent assult.
However I am not so sure about the firey pit and the like, (god punishments)Some religions would be edited out of existence.

Some passages in scripture do not have god setting a very good example.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I agree about childrens education, and also about violent assult.
However I am not so sure about the firey pit and the like, (god punishments)Some religions would be edited out of existence.

Some passages in scripture do not have god setting a very good example.
I say that religions have the right to say what they want of my fate in the after-life.
Let'm say I'll burn in Hell.
It doesn't bother me what their opinion is about the supernatural.
But in the material world, what they advocate matters.

Note:
It seemed like you disagreed about this, but it's not clear.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I say that religions have the right to say what they want of my fate in the after-life.
Let'm say I'll burn in Hell.
It doesn't bother me what their opinion is about the supernatural.
But in the material world, what they advocate matters.

Note:
It seemed like you disagreed about this, but it's not clear.

There is a problem... what a faith believes and teaches about the exploits of god or his followers in the past, tend to get turned into action by extremists today.
They are able in their own minds to equate the burning in hell and infinite suffering, into something that they should do to unbelievers.
Or that as in scriptural times it was proper to punish wives or even stone them to death for adultery. Then that punishment is still appropriate today.

It is impossible to separate what is learnt from scripture from the resulting action in real life.

It is impossible to know how to deal with this dichotomy. And maintain freedom of religion.

It is not their opinion that we are faced with it their application of it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There is a problem... what a faith believes and teaches about the exploits of god or his followers in the past, tend to get turned into action by extremists today.
They are able in their own minds to equate the burning in hell and infinite suffering, into something that they should do to unbelievers.
Or that as in scriptural times it was proper to punish wives or even stone them to death for adultery. Then that punishment is still appropriate today.

It is impossible to separate what is learnt from scripture from the resulting action in real life.

It is impossible to know how to deal with this dichotomy. And maintain freedom of religion.

It is not their opinion that we are faced with it their application of it.
I don't want to restrict scripture just because it might be turned into something bad without being directed to do so.
I'd illegalize only direct commands to do wrongful things.
Anything more is overly ripe for governmental mischief.
 
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