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Disclaimer: The following predictions are the opinions of self-proclaimed evangelical Christian "prophets". I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of these so-called prophets. Their claims are as follows:
Starting in 2007 and continuing to the present, a number of Bible-teaching, Gospel-preaching self-proclaimed "prophets" began announcing their predictions about the future of Donald Trump. These individuals include the late Kim Clement, Mark Taylor, Lance Wallnau, Robby Dawkins, Chuck Pierce, and others who began announcing similar predictions and claiming God gave them the information through dreams and visions.

Predictions 2007 - 2015

The main points of the predictions of Donald Trump from 2007 to 2015 were collected on YouTube and other internet sources. The notes next to each prediction and shown below were collected from various news media articles with dates given in the sources:

1) Donald Trump would someday become President of the United States of America. (Kim Clement 2007 "Trump will be a trumpet", Chuck Pierce 2008 "Trump-card", Mark Taylor 2011, Lance Wallnau 2015, Jorge Parrott 10/2016).
Note: Trump won the presidential election held on November 8, 2016 and was inaugurated on January 20, 2017 to become the 45th POTUS. He finished all 4 years of his term.

2) He would be known as a political "disrupter", "wrecking ball", and for his "hot blooded" temperament and that he meant what he said.

3) He would make America the leading energy producer in the world and put an end to America's dependence on Middle East oil.
Note: Trump increased oil production by reducing restrictions and regulations which brought down gasoline prices into the $2 per gallon range which was last seen back in the 1980's.

4) There would be an unsuccessful attempt to impeach Trump by his political enemies. (Kim Clement, 2015, "They will say 'impeach, impeach!').
Note: Trump was impeached by the US Congress in 2020 and 2021 but was acquitted by the US Senate both times.

5) Trump would serve 2 consecutive terms as President. A separate nonconsecutive 2024 second term was never predicted.
Note: The prophets are currently claiming God told them He (God) will cause certain individuals to confess to significant 2020 election irregularities, expose election corruption, confirm Trump did indeed win the 2020 election by a landslide and thus nullify Joe Biden's current term as illegitimate, and bring Trump back for his 2nd consecutive term. This 2021 prophecy has caused many to criticize the prophets as false. More on this later.

6) A dear relative of Donald Trump would die during his first term and their casket would be brought out from the White House with Donald walking closely alongside.
Note: Robert Trump, Donald's younger brother with whom he had a very close relationship, died during Trump's first term and the casket was brought out from the White House with Donald Trump walking alongside on August 21, 2020.

7) During his first term, Trump would be backstabbed by some whom he trusted the most on Capitol Hill and within the White House. These betrayals would be a tremendous blow to him because he highly valued loyalty.
Note: In the months prior to vacating the Oval Office, many of Trump's inner circle of confidants and cabinet members were seen on national television making harsh statements about Trump.

8) Trump will appoint 3 SCOTUS Justices of which one will be a woman (Prophet Charlie Shamp, 2018).
Note: During Trump's first term, he appointed 3 SCOTUS Justices of which one was a woman. They were Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

9) During Trump's second term, his SCOTUS Justice appointments will be key in the reversal of Roe v. Wade.

10) Trump would not be a praying President at the start of his first term but he would be a praying President at the start of his second term. They said this would mirror other praying Presidents such as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

Note 1: The most common Bible verses quoted by those making the predictions to justify or otherwise support their predictions are as follows:

a) Amos 3:7: Indeed, the Sovereign LORD never does anything until He reveals His plans to His servants the prophets.

b) Ephesians 4:11: So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers...

c) 1 Thessalonians 5:20: Do not scoff at prophecies, but test all things. Hold fast to what is good...

d) Ezekiel 21:26-27: This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

Finally, these predictions can be found mostly on YouTube. What do you all think about these predictions? Do you believe they are prophets or is it a sham? Are they worth taking seriously or not?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
People make all kinds of predictions based on whatever justification they might happen to have.

A few might even happen. I suspect it more justifies that we occasionally get it right than some supernatural element which gives certain people foresight.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Disclaimer: The following predictions are the opinions of self-proclaimed evangelical Christian "prophets". I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of these so-called prophets. Their claims are as follows:
Starting in 2007 and continuing to the present, a number of Bible-teaching, Gospel-preaching self-proclaimed "prophets" began announcing their predictions about the future of Donald Trump. These individuals include the late Kim Clement, Mark Taylor, Lance Wallnau, Robby Dawkins, Chuck Pierce, and others who began announcing similar predictions and claiming God gave them the information through dreams and visions.

Predictions 2007 - 2015

The main points of the predictions of Donald Trump from 2007 to 2015 were collected on YouTube and other internet sources. The notes next to each prediction and shown below were collected from various news media articles with dates given in the sources:

1) Donald Trump would someday become President of the United States of America. (Kim Clement 2007 "Trump will be a trumpet", Chuck Pierce 2008 "Trump-card", Mark Taylor 2011, Lance Wallnau 2015, Jorge Parrott 10/2016).
Note: Trump won the presidential election held on November 8, 2016 and was inaugurated on January 20, 2017 to become the 45th POTUS. He finished all 4 years of his term.

2) He would be known as a political "disrupter", "wrecking ball", and for his "hot blooded" temperament and that he meant what he said.

3) He would make America the leading energy producer in the world and put an end to America's dependence on Middle East oil.
Note: Trump increased oil production by reducing restrictions and regulations which brought down gasoline prices into the $2 per gallon range which was last seen back in the 1980's.

4) There would be an unsuccessful attempt to impeach Trump by his political enemies. (Kim Clement, 2015, "They will say 'impeach, impeach!').
Note: Trump was impeached by the US Congress in 2020 and 2021 but was acquitted by the US Senate both times.

5) Trump would serve 2 consecutive terms as President. A separate nonconsecutive 2024 second term was never predicted.
Note: The prophets are currently claiming God told them He (God) will cause certain individuals to confess to significant 2020 election irregularities, expose election corruption, confirm Trump did indeed win the 2020 election by a landslide and thus nullify Joe Biden's current term as illegitimate, and bring Trump back for his 2nd consecutive term. This 2021 prophecy has caused many to criticize the prophets as false. More on this later.

6) A dear relative of Donald Trump would die during his first term and their casket would be brought out from the White House with Donald walking closely alongside.
Note: Robert Trump, Donald's younger brother with whom he had a very close relationship, died during Trump's first term and the casket was brought out from the White House with Donald Trump walking alongside on August 21, 2020.

7) During his first term, Trump would be backstabbed by some whom he trusted the most on Capitol Hill and within the White House. These betrayals would be a tremendous blow to him because he highly valued loyalty.
Note: In the months prior to vacating the Oval Office, many of Trump's inner circle of confidants and cabinet members were seen on national television making harsh statements about Trump.

8) Trump will appoint 3 SCOTUS Justices of which one will be a woman (Prophet Charlie Shamp, 2018).
Note: During Trump's first term, he appointed 3 SCOTUS Justices of which one was a woman. They were Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

9) During Trump's second term, his SCOTUS Justice appointments will be key in the reversal of Roe v. Wade.

10) Trump would not be a praying President at the start of his first term but he would be a praying President at the start of his second term. They said this would mirror other praying Presidents such as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

Note 1: The most common Bible verses quoted by those making the predictions to justify or otherwise support their predictions are as follows:

a) Amos 3:7: Indeed, the Sovereign LORD never does anything until He reveals His plans to His servants the prophets.

b) Ephesians 4:11: So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers...

c) 1 Thessalonians 5:20: Do not scoff at prophecies, but test all things. Hold fast to what is good...

d) Ezekiel 21:26-27: This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

Finally, these predictions can be found mostly on YouTube. What do you all think about these predictions? Do you believe they are prophets or is it a sham? Are they worth taking seriously or not?
Isnt prophecies suposed to be given before they happen and not as a look back in time of what someone did that has been well documented in media all over the world?

I dont see prophecies here
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Disclaimer: The following predictions are the opinions of self-proclaimed evangelical Christian "prophets". I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of these so-called prophets. Their claims are as follows:
Starting in 2007 and continuing to the present, a number of Bible-teaching, Gospel-preaching self-proclaimed "prophets" began announcing their predictions about the future of Donald Trump. These individuals include the late Kim Clement, Mark Taylor, Lance Wallnau, Robby Dawkins, Chuck Pierce, and others who began announcing similar predictions and claiming God gave them the information through dreams and visions.

Predictions 2007 - 2015

The main points of the predictions of Donald Trump from 2007 to 2015 were collected on YouTube and other internet sources. The notes next to each prediction and shown below were collected from various news media articles with dates given in the sources:

1) Donald Trump would someday become President of the United States of America. (Kim Clement 2007 "Trump will be a trumpet", Chuck Pierce 2008 "Trump-card", Mark Taylor 2011, Lance Wallnau 2015, Jorge Parrott 10/2016).
Note: Trump won the presidential election held on November 8, 2016 and was inaugurated on January 20, 2017 to become the 45th POTUS. He finished all 4 years of his term.

2) He would be known as a political "disrupter", "wrecking ball", and for his "hot blooded" temperament and that he meant what he said.

3) He would make America the leading energy producer in the world and put an end to America's dependence on Middle East oil.
Note: Trump increased oil production by reducing restrictions and regulations which brought down gasoline prices into the $2 per gallon range which was last seen back in the 1980's.

4) There would be an unsuccessful attempt to impeach Trump by his political enemies. (Kim Clement, 2015, "They will say 'impeach, impeach!').
Note: Trump was impeached by the US Congress in 2020 and 2021 but was acquitted by the US Senate both times.

5) Trump would serve 2 consecutive terms as President. A separate nonconsecutive 2024 second term was never predicted.
Note: The prophets are currently claiming God told them He (God) will cause certain individuals to confess to significant 2020 election irregularities, expose election corruption, confirm Trump did indeed win the 2020 election by a landslide and thus nullify Joe Biden's current term as illegitimate, and bring Trump back for his 2nd consecutive term. This 2021 prophecy has caused many to criticize the prophets as false. More on this later.

6) A dear relative of Donald Trump would die during his first term and their casket would be brought out from the White House with Donald walking closely alongside.
Note: Robert Trump, Donald's younger brother with whom he had a very close relationship, died during Trump's first term and the casket was brought out from the White House with Donald Trump walking alongside on August 21, 2020.

7) During his first term, Trump would be backstabbed by some whom he trusted the most on Capitol Hill and within the White House. These betrayals would be a tremendous blow to him because he highly valued loyalty.
Note: In the months prior to vacating the Oval Office, many of Trump's inner circle of confidants and cabinet members were seen on national television making harsh statements about Trump.

8) Trump will appoint 3 SCOTUS Justices of which one will be a woman (Prophet Charlie Shamp, 2018).
Note: During Trump's first term, he appointed 3 SCOTUS Justices of which one was a woman. They were Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

9) During Trump's second term, his SCOTUS Justice appointments will be key in the reversal of Roe v. Wade.

10) Trump would not be a praying President at the start of his first term but he would be a praying President at the start of his second term. They said this would mirror other praying Presidents such as George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

Note 1: The most common Bible verses quoted by those making the predictions to justify or otherwise support their predictions are as follows:

a) Amos 3:7: Indeed, the Sovereign LORD never does anything until He reveals His plans to His servants the prophets.

b) Ephesians 4:11: So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers...

c) 1 Thessalonians 5:20: Do not scoff at prophecies, but test all things. Hold fast to what is good...

d) Ezekiel 21:26-27: This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

Finally, these predictions can be found mostly on YouTube. What do you all think about these predictions? Do you believe they are prophets or is it a sham? Are they worth taking seriously or not?
Not in the least.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Not.

There are those who call themselves Christians who have been seduced by an individual who embraces the darkest impulses of people; who openly embraces lust, greed, pride, envy and wrath; who lies; who ignores the law and so forth.
Quite. Trump seems to be pretty close to embodying the Devil, so far as I can see. A thoroughly repulsive human being, with no redeeming feature.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Disclaimer: The following predictions are the opinions of self-proclaimed evangelical Christian "prophets". I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of these so-called prophets. Their claims are as follows:
Starting in 2007 and continuing to the present, a number of Bible-teaching, Gospel-preaching self-proclaimed "prophets" began announcing their predictions about the future of Donald Trump. These individuals include the late Kim Clement, Mark Taylor, Lance Wallnau, Robby Dawkins, Chuck Pierce, and others who began announcing similar predictions and claiming God gave them the information through dreams and visions.

Predictions 2007 - 2015

The main points of the predictions of Donald Trump from 2007 to 2015 were collected on YouTube and other internet sources. The notes next to each prediction and shown below were collected from various news media articles with dates given in the sources:

1) Donald Trump would someday become President of the United States of America. (Kim Clement 2007 "Trump will be a trumpet", Chuck Pierce 2008 "Trump-card", Mark Taylor 2011, Lance Wallnau 2015, Jorge Parrott 10/2016).
Note: Trump won the presidential election held on November 8, 2016 and was inaugurated on January 20, 2017 to become the 45th POTUS. He finished all 4 years of his term....

...Finally, these predictions can be found mostly on YouTube. What do you all think about these predictions? Do you believe they are prophets or is it a sham? Are they worth taking seriously or not?
Definitely a sham, if you get a chance you might read the thread How To Make a Believable Prophecy

But I will try to summarise some key learnings for you in case you are too lazy to read the thread.

First of all taking number 1 as an example, they don't pass the ambiguity test.

For example how did you get from, "Trump will be a trumpet" to "Trump won the presidential election held on November 8, 2016 and was inaugurated on January 20, 2017 to become the 45th POTUS. He finished all 4 years of his term" That is some pretty heavy interpretation/spin + adding in details after the fact.

Others on your list included self fulfilling prophecy, and then there was the one about "A dear relative of Donald Trump would die during his first term" aside from being unsourced other than to say it appears somewhere on youtube it is not uncommon for a 74 year old man to have a dear relative die (note it need not have been his younger brother as the prophecy is not that specific).

Finally to determine if a person is being told things by God you can't count the hits and ignore the misses, we would need a list of all things they claimed were told to them by God, not just the ones which coincidentally may have aligned with reality.

In short it appears you have not even nearly done your homework to determine if these prophecies are believable or from God, or even if they are all sourced and accurately cited.

In my opinion.
 
Disclaimer: I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of the following predictions nor their sources.

These so-called prophets worldwide (Australia, Africa, USA, UK, Asia, etc.) are all claiming the same basic thing: Corruption exposure and D.Trump's sudden return. The reason they give for claiming the same thing is that they are listening to the same God. What do you think? Are they copying each other? What do they have to gain from making such outrageous claims except to incur the wrath of the public?

Their latest claims are God told them He is about to cause:
  1. Specific individuals who He has been putting pressure on, to confess and whistleblow on election fraud from this last November 2020 election. They claim God is putting on the pressure by giving them dreams and visions of judgment to come and through their conscience.
  2. This will result in mass arrests on Capitol Hill in DC. Some corrupt politicians will attempt to flee the USA.
  3. A national alert will go over the airwaves and cell phones announcing this event and the return of the rightful winner of the election, DJT.
  4. All laws passed by J.Biden and his administration will be withdrawn as illegal due to his "illegitimate" Presidency.
  5. Corrupt mass media companies will be taken over by the US military and their equipment removed from their offices.
  6. People will celebrate in the streets as the US election fraud is overturned in one day.
Other Supposedly Fulfilled Prophecies:
  1. Socialism will rise in the USA and attempt to build a nation without God but will fail (Kim Clement 2011).
  2. A 'Pestilence' or 'Plague' will sweep the world and unscrupulous people will take advantage of it (Robin Bullock 4/2019, Chuck Pierce 9/2019).
  3. A USA election will be stolen (Hank Kunneman 8/2020).
  4. God will remove New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo in disgrace (Robin Bullock 10/2020).
Prophecies Supposedly in-Progress (Source: multiple prophets - search YouTube for more info):
  1. America will experience an atypical type of "civil war" (multiple prophets throughout 2019).
  2. God is separating those with pure hearts from those impure; separating friends, family members, etc. as His Spirit begins the final Worldwide Spiritual Revival.
  3. Infighting will increase among those involved in promoting evil and election fraud in the U.S. as they turn on each other.
  4. Whistleblowers will reveal corruption in many branches of the USA government, corporations, and media.
  5. Revealing of corruption will begin within the Church leadership worldwide ("It is time for judgment to begin with the household of God." 1 Peter 4:17)
  6. Crash and dismantling of corrupt worldwide financial institutions, especially national banks.
  7. Child trafficking organizations will be exposed along with their ties to prominent people. (related to the Ghislaine Maxwell trial?)
  8. God will bring down China's Communist Party for their participation in the USA election fraud, starting of the pandemic, and ambition to dominate the world.
  9. The Coronavirus vaccine is more harmful to us than we have been told and this truth will become known.
  10. The Coronavirus pandemic will dissipate and become a non-issue in 2022.
Prophecies not yet Fulfilled (will they ever be fulfilled someday?):
  1. Largest-ever blackouts (power grid, media offline, etc.) in the USA like never before.
  2. Prominent corrupt politicians will suddenly pass, some on the same day at the Capitol. Some have been named: For more info, search YouTube.
  3. A nationwide alert will be announced via airwaves and cellular service of mass arrests on Capitol Hill and D. Trump's sudden return.
  4. Trump will be inaugurated in a somber ceremony and have a 2nd consecutive term as POTUS.
  5. Corrupt mass media companies will be taken down; the US military will confiscate their equipment from their offices.
  6. People will celebrate in the streets as the US election fraud is overturned in one day.
  7. Roe V. Wade (legalized abortion in USA in 1973) will be overturned during D. Trump's 2nd term as POTUS.
  8. The US Democratic Party will be decimated due to corruption exposure.
  9. A new major political party will emerge and eclipse both the Republican and Democratic Parties.
  10. All laws passed by the Biden Administration will be undone because they were enacted illegally.
  11. Mike Pence will have two consecutive terms as POTUS immediately following Trump.
  12. New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio's hidden corruptions will be exposed.
  13. Another US State Governor will be removed for corruption (in addition to Gov. Cuomo).
  14. Nine nations will be exposed for their part in the USA election fraud.
  15. Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and other leaders will be exposed for corruption and removed.
  16. Two SCOTUS Justices will step down in disgrace.
  17. Israel will build their 3rd Temple in/near Jerusalem, in part, with Trump's assistance.
  18. North Korea Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un will die (Kim Clement 2009, "You are brain dead, you are a vegetable.")
  19. North and South Korea will be united.
 
Isnt prophecies suposed to be given before they happen and not as a look back in time of what someone did that has been well documented in media all over the world?

I dont see prophecies here

I agree. See latest above post which includes events which have not occurred.

Let me find more future-oriented predictions and i will post asap.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The reason they give for claiming the same thing is that they are listening to the same God.
Yeah, greed is their God, that is why they are all predicting trump's return, it is what they want to happen so are attempting to create self fulfilling prophecies.

PS, how about instead of just adding more claims you attempt to justify the initial claims you made.

In my opinion.
 
Disclaimer: I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of the following predictions, interpretations/meanings, nor their sources.

The following supposed 'prophecies' are more recent (2022). Important to note is many are claiming February 2022 will be the start of God removing His enemies and exposing corruption:

1/12/22 Charlie Shamp
Between February 2, 2022 and February 22, 2022, God will BEGIN the fulfilling of the following verses (and it will get greater for the rest of the year):
  1. Daniel 2:22: "He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with him." Meaning: Corruption will be exposed at the highest levels, everywhere.
  2. Mark 2:22: "No one puts new wine into old wineskins but.....new wine into new wineskins." Meaning: God will remove the old corrupt administrations and replace them with new, righteous ones as He reconstitutes America back to where it belongs and what He intended it to be - God's light to the world.
  3. Acts 2:22: "Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know." Meaning: Mighty works, wonders, and signs will be given for all to see as corruptions are revealed by none other than God Himself, and everyone will know it is God doing it.
  1. Strong winds, floods, and earthquakes in places not known for these specific phenomena will signal God's Hand beginning to expose corruption, which will come like a flood, will blow open things kept behind closed doors, and shake the nation.
  2. Illegal and corrupt manipulations of the following industries and institutions will be revealed:
  3. a) Mass media and Big Tech
  4. b) Food industry
  5. c) Medical sciences
  6. d) Environmental sciences
  7. e) Financial institutions (banks)
  8. f) Homeland Security
  9. g) Educational institutions
  10. h) Churches.

1/7/22 Mike Thompson
Come February 2022 We Launch!

February is when God will begin His exposure of corruption and will begin taking down His enemies.
1) 2021 was the year of preparing the people to see what corrupt politicians are like and what their purposes for America are. This, in turn, was meant to make Americans sick of what they see so that when God turns things around in 2022, they would appreciate the change.

2) 2022 is the year of change. God has given corrupt persons one year to repent and confess their guilt. Those that repent will confess. Those that have not repented will reap what they have sown.


1/7/22 Barry Wunsch
Brace for Impact!

You (born-again prophetic Christians) have cried out for cleansing of the nation, grieving the bloodshed within the nation, for those children murdered through abortion. The enemies of God shall unleash everything they can during this time, and it has to be so to expose the evil agenda of these leaders. There will be many casualties among those leaders who refuse to repent.

1) Obama will be in the headlines. Truth is being released. God is cutting the puppet strings he (Obama) has been pulling from the backroom in which he thinks he will be sheltered and hidden. Biden is a frontman and weaker then they expected. They are having to alter course. They have plans in place to stop God's justice but they will not be able to pull the trigger and take out the leader (Trump) the Lord has in-position. When they make their move, it will be evident the Lord has Trump and his family protected.



Note: Do you notice any significant events in February 2022 which seem to be consistent with the "taking down of the enemies of God" or "corruption exposure" or is February 2022 just another normal month so far?
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Playing the prophecy game can lead to seeing events and people in all sorts of ways. I could assert that Trump is a false prophet and even the devil in human form or a servant of the devil because he's full of wrath as prophesied.

Matt 24:
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Revelation 12
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
 
Yeah, greed is their God, that is why they are all predicting trump's return, it is what they want to happen so are attempting to create self fulfilling prophecies.

PS, how about instead of just adding more claims you attempt to justify the initial claims you made.

In my opinion.

Clarification: These are NOT my claims. I do not claim to be a prophet but I do follow their predictions. I look at the YouTube upload dates and compare what they predicted and when they predicted them. That's all. It is up to each person to decide for themselves if they see a fulfillment of the prediction or just a lucky random similarity.

As for greed, some supposed 'prophets' actually lost their ministries as donations stopped when they said D. Trump would be reinstated. Maybe some gained donations but I am not privy to any such info.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
To be more explicit, this kind of prophesy is bunkum. We see over and over and over again various predictions that don't come to pass because they're from people who manipulate fear and anger to get followers (power) and wealth.

Given the tenor of the times, this kind of manipulation of people has gotten crazier and crazier with the latest manifestation is attempting to elevate someone lost in darkness, Trump, to a divine state.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I prophesize that Trump will meet his demise by slipping on a banana pill and falling head first into a literal dumpster fire.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Clarification: These are NOT my claims. I do not claim to be a prophet but I do follow their predictions. I look at the YouTube upload dates and compare what they predicted and when they predicted them. That's all. It is up to each person to decide for themselves if they see a fulfillment of the prediction or just a lucky random similarity.
If you follow them could you start by accurately citing their claims? (Hint: saying it is "on youtube" or "on the internet" or "in the papers" is not specific enough for anyone to locate it. Providing a link to the original clip with a time stamp would be more helpful).

As for greed, some supposed 'prophets' actually lost their ministries as donations stopped when they said D. Trump would be reinstated. Maybe some gained donations but I am not privy to any such info.
Sure some thieves get caught and go to jail too, that doesn't change the intention.

If they intended to get off paying a fair share of taxes by supporting Trump then got caught out being greedy by carefully scrutinising members of their church it doesnt change the underlying motive just because they got caught.

In my opinion.
 
Disclaimer: I make no claim to the authenticity or divine inspiration of the following predictions, interpretations/meanings, nor their sources. Furthermore, these predictions are not mine. I do not claim to be a prophet or claim any ability to predict future events.

Canadian Truckers Convoy Prophesy
: Headlines for February 2022 is the Canadian Truckers Freedom Convoy (B. Wunsch, S. Schultz, H. Kunneman, R. Bullock have claimed this is a movement established by God) has caused several provinces to announce an abrupt end to the Covid-related restrictions and have brought severe criticism to PM Justin Trudeau, sending the PM and his family fleeing away from the Capitol City of Ottawa for several days. Wicked leaders are being stripped of their power, say the prophets.

This event was supposedly 'prophesied' back in 2017 by H. Kunneman which claimed the following:
2/26/2017: "This is what I say to you Canada: I shall reform you; I shall make a fire to begin to burn among the youth and even among the old who remember Canada of old; and they shall arise and there shall be a movement that shall sweep from British Columbia to Quebec;
6/10/2018: And there shall be a continuation of dissatisfaction among the people, yes, you Canada, shall lead a righteous rebellion that shall lead to a righteous rebellion of votes that shall lead to a righteous ruler (replacement of PM Trudeau) who shall stand before you and shall speak by My Spirit. This is My promise, says the Lord."

Canadian Honkers Prophecy
: The late Bob Jones' famous 'Honkers Prophecy' of the 1990's claimed the following in brief: "The Honkers (Canadian Geese) will start honking before the Eagles (America) will fly."

This, the prophets claim, may refer to the Canadian truckers who have honked their way from British Columbia to Ottawa. Honking their horns is their trademark, so much so, that the Canadian police have attempted to outlaw honking and threatened any truckers who honk their horn with arrest. The next step, claim the prophets, will be for the Eagles (American truckers) to have their own convoy driving all the way to Washington DC.

2/4/22 Prophet A. Strawhand: "The National Mall (the rectangular body of water between the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument at the East End of the Capitol) will be filled with Canadian Geese. The Lord says, "My honkers - the Canadian Geese - are the Canadian trucks we see now. Pray the prophecy of Bob Jones so the vision of the Eagles (American truckers?) comes to pass."
Note: Could this mean the Canadian truckers' Freedom Convoy movement will come to America and the truckers will gather at the US Capitol in Washington DC?

Note: As a matter of personal interest, I do my research mostly on YouTube. I encourage others who are interested to do your own research on YouTube; look at the upload dates, etc..
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
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Lets start at the beginning.

1) Donald Trump would someday become President of the United States of America. (Kim Clement 2007 "Trump will be a trumpet",
This is not a prediction that Trump will be the US President. It is vague and could be interpreted any number of ways.

Chuck Pierce 2008 "Trump-card",
It's not even clear this is about Donald Trump - "Trump card" is an expression independent of Donald. Nor is it a prediction that he would be President.

Mark Taylor 2011, Lance Wallnau 2015, Jorge Parrott 10/2016).

None of these are quotes of what was actually said or predicted. Do you have the actual references with quotes? The references in 2015-2016 are incredibly mundane as by that time Trump already announced he was running and was the Republican frontrunner and then nominee through most/all of 2016. So of course people would say he's going to be President.
 
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