Trump Proposes a Trillion Dollars in Cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid

[metis]

The Trump camp announced yesterday that they will be working on making significant cuts to both welfare and Medicaid. Also, remember that we expect millions of families to lose their insurance over the next few years, and the irony is that it will affect more of those who voted from Trump versus the other candidates.

Where's the religious ethics on this, and why would those who are observant religiously still stick with this guy who wants to stick-it to the poor and lower-income families?

 

[tytlyf]

Where's the religious ethics on this, and why would those who are observant religiously still stick with this guy who wants to stick-it to the poor and lower-income families?

They vote republican because RW media teaches them to hate democrats more than North Korea. RW media intentionally divides this country to keep corporate policies in full swing.

Texas AG: Democrats more dangerous than North Korea

 

[Revoltingest]

I've been expecting Social Security cuts for a long time. Its financing didn't look sustainable.
(So I started collecting benefits as soon as I was eligible.) The big question was was who
would do it, & in what fashion? Most likely was means testing, ie, reducing or eliminating
benefits for those with wealth or income. It's a non-partisan problem.

 

[tytlyf]

I've been expecting Social Security cuts for a long time. Its financing didn't look sustainable.
(So I started collecting benefits as soon as I was eligible.) The big question was was who
would do it, & in what fashion? Most likely was means testing, ie, reducing or eliminating
benefits for those with wealth or income. It's a non-partisan problem.

Or you stop cutting taxes for the uber wealthy because they don't pay any to begin with. All that money gone. It also doesn't help to give billions in tax dollars to the MIC, Big Oil, Big Pharma, etc. Never trust a republican saying anything about social programs. They lie.

One of the reasons I vote democratic, I like to see these social programs gain strength. Republicans view my tax dollars as bonuses for corrupt corporations.

 

[YmirGF]

I was wondering when President Obama would come into the conversation. Since this thread is about Trump, I was sure it was only a matter of time...

Good lord, it's not like it isn't completely germane to the topic or anything. I must remember to be outraged at Trump every moment of every day. The point IS, it doesn't matter what Trump wants. Budgets are made and passed by Congress. Jeez.

 

[Revoltingest]

Or you stop cutting taxes for the uber wealthy because they don't pay any to begin with. All that money gone. It also doesn't help to give billions in tax dollars to the MIC, Big Oil, Big Pharma, etc. Never trust a republican saying anything about social programs. They lie.

One of the reasons I vote democratic, I like to see these social programs gain strength. Republicans view my tax dollars as bonuses for corrupt corporations.

Party schmarty.....I expect it to happen.

 

[Sunstone]

IF, of course, the House and the Senate approve said budget. I seem to recall that a couple of Obama's budget proposals went over like a lead balloon too.

Trump has broken his promise regardless of whether his budget goes through or not.

 

[YmirGF]

Trump has broken his promise regardless of whether his budget goes through or not.

OMG. Trump lied!
Stop the presses!

 

[Sunstone]

OMG. Trump lied!
Stop the presses!

You left out the best part of the joke: Millions of voters believed him.

 

[YmirGF]

You left out the best part of the joke: Millions of voters believed him.

Many millions of people believed in hope and change only to find out their hopes were unfounded but they did have less change.

 

[Sunstone]

Many millions of people believed in hope and change only to find out their hopes were unfounded but they did have less change.

True that. Obama turned out to be a corporate Democrat beholden to the financial sector. Many of his supporters expected a more progressive president than he proved to be. As a person though, I believe he was more decent than most politicians.

 

[YmirGF]

True that. Obama turned out to be a corporate Democrat beholden to the financial sector. As a person though, I believe he was more decent than most politicians.

Whew. We agree on one thing politically, at least. I think, as a human, he is a lovely guy. He'd probably be a fantastic person to sit down and have a beer with.

 

[Revoltingest]

Many millions of people believed in hope and change only to find out their hopes were unfounded but they did have less change.

I think of campaign promises over the years.
A couple highlights.....
"Read my lips...no new taxes" (GHW Bush)
"If you like your health care plan, you can keep it." (B Obama)

Whether it's dishonesty or naive optimism crushed by
political reality, I put no faith whatsoever in things like....
"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall." (You know who)

I don't know anyone who believes campaign promises.
Apparently few people do put much stock in them.
Voting is based upon other broader factors.
Ref....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../06/campaign-promises-trump-clinton/86134898/

 

[pearl]

"Read my lips...no new taxes" (GHW Bush)

Funny thing is that he knew it would kill chances of a 2nd term, but did what was necessary at the time. I did not vote for him, but there were some things I admired him for, such as his refusal to go into Iraq when he had the chance.

 

[Revoltingest]

Funny thing is that he knew it would kill chances of a 2nd term, but did what was necessary at the time. I did not vote for him, but there were some things I admired him for, such as his refusal to go into Iraq when he had the chance.

He did go into Iraq, but it was a limited invasion.
This was problematic......
We defended countries Iraq attacked, & in the process we invaded Iraq. Limited warfare has
its advantages, but once we've attacked & defeated an enemy country, does it make sense
to exit with the same leader & power structure intact? This leaves the door open to fight the
same battle again. I won't apply 20/20 hindsight to this war, but GHW Bush's actions were
of questionable value to us, both initially & in the manner we terminated the war.

 

[pearl]

He did go into Iraq, but it was a limited invasion.

I guess what I was remembering was his refusal to go after Saddam.