Trump ready to begin drawdown of troops at US-Mexico border

[Kangaroo Feathers]

No. Just the facts.

And to think Lefty would be applauding that move. What you guys wanted, wasn't it?

Talk about whiny cry babies.

Trump is so baaaadd!!

Trump is so Awwwffuulll..... Waaaaaaa!!!!!!

He should have kept the troops there!!!!

Waaaaaaa...!!!!....


He pulled them out!! Waaaaaaa!!! Sniffle sniffle....waaaa!!!!!

Pretty sure "what they wanted" was for the caravan not to be demonised nor soldiers used as political props, actually.

The point that people are making is that now their political value has been spent, they're being withdrawn, supporting the idea that the whole caravan and response to it was nothing but an election stunt. That's why people are talking about it. No one's crying over the withdrawal. Stop strawmanning for Trump.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I think that's a good question. I'm not sure it will. I live in a city with five military bases, including one that is home to an army division, and the city's congressional district just returned it's Republican Congress member by 58% of the vote. Also, the local paper is still unequivocally pro-Trump. I live in a liberal enclave in the city that votes against the majority, so I'm not really plugged into the mood of the community as a whole, but from what little I can see, the military here remains pro-Trump.

It's hard to gauge because active military aren't supposed to give political views to the press or public. I have a career airforce friend who is pretty staunchly liberal and about all she could do is tell people to vote.

 

[Sunstone]

Even in light of him mocking Navy Seals, not honoring the troops on Veteran's Day? I saw posts online of vets feeling disgusted at his suggestion that troops should open fire on the caravan, among the many other things he has said over his presidency now and in the past. Granted a lot of that has been by shared posts by other vets, that I've seen through a friend's page who's a vet and a liberal, So maybe I'm not seeing enough from more conservative vets.

I hear of grumbling among officers on the national level, and that the military is now split in its opinions of Trump on that level. Keep in mind, though, that many servicemen and women come from the same demographic as votes most heavily for Trump.

Another factor, Kapalika, is that this town -- and a lot of the military -- is heavily Evangelical. The Evangelical vote went 81% for Trump in 2016.

 

[Kapalika]

How many troops has Trump sent to assist with firefighting operations in California?

Would be nice; I'm over 100 miles away and I can literally smell how bad the air quality is this morning due to it when I ran to get milk just down the street. A lot of central Cal is under an "unhealthy" air quality alert.

 

[Sunstone]

I'm a conservative "vet", and IMHO Trump is utterly disdainful of military personnel.

I think Trump is disdainful of just about everyone, very much including the military. Ironic, that. A boy who dodged the draft -- not for political reasons -- but apparently out of cowardice.

 

[sun rise]

I think that's a good question. I'm not sure it will. I live in a city with five military bases, including one that is home to an army division, and the city's congressional district just returned it's Republican Congress member by 58% of the vote. Also, the local paper is still unequivocally pro-Trump. I live in a liberal enclave in the city that votes against the majority, so I'm not really plugged into the mood of the community as a whole, but from what little I can see, the military here remains pro-Trump.

I'm reminded again and again about the song "What Did You Learn in School Today", because, of course, the leader of my tribe is always right and never wrong. No matter what he says or does, no matter how much he lies and supports evil dictators, I'll rationalize it to being just what was needed and declare him the wisest of men:

What did you learn in school today
Dear little boy of mine?
What did you learn in school today
Dear little boy of mine?

I learned our country must be strong
It's always right and never wrong
Our leaders are the finest men
And we elect them again and again

And that's what I learned in school today
That's what I learned in school

 

[sun rise]

I think Trump is disdainful of just about everyone, very much including the military. Ironic, that. A boy who dodged the draft -- not for political reasons -- but apparently out of cowardice.

I've read that he's scared to visit the troops in a war zone. Bullies are like that. Of course he's too busy watching Fox. And maybe he'll be shamed into doing it.

Trump is reportedly 'afraid of' going to a combat zone to visit US troops, but that may soon change

Why doesn’t Trump visit troops fighting overseas?

 

[fantome profane]

The troops were obviously extra manpower and had set up constantine wire and closed gaps.

Right, they were sent to patch up the holes in the wall.

 

[averageJOE]

Another out of proportion and overblown story.

The troops were obviously extra manpower and had set up constantine wire and closed gaps.

Things got done and it was mission accomplished ahead of schedule.

Time to move on kiddies.

Operation Midterm Election was to spend $100-200 million to put up a fence?

 

[Sunstone]

Operation Midterm Election was to spend $100-200 million to put up a fence?

Great point!

By the way, the lowest estimate I've found for the cost of that "fence" is from a single conservative source that prices it 42 to 110 million dollars. The highest estimate is from a single liberal source that prices it at 200 to 300 million dollars. The most frequent estimate -- the one most sources agree on -- is somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 million dollars.

 

[Sunstone]

Am I the only one who has noticed the troops were deployed to Texas, yet the caravan headed to Tijuana -- 500 miles away? Sure does look like General Trump knows his business.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Pretty sure "what they wanted" was for the caravan not to be demonised nor soldiers used as political props, actually.

The point that people are making is that now their political value has been spent, they're being withdrawn, supporting the idea that the whole caravan and response to it was nothing but an election stunt. That's why people are talking about it. No one's crying over the withdrawal. Stop strawmanning for Trump.

You do realize that troops at the border is not a new idea nor unusual. They were there, and was and has proven to be an effective deterrent in assisting border protection agents.

I think the strawman is people putting it out as being an election stunt. What did the midterms have to do with anything?

Trump clearly is not in election mode at this time.

 

[Shad]

Trump ready to begin drawdown of troops at US-Mexico border

Now that their political purpose has been served, Trump is apparently ending his stunt. That is, he is returning the troops he sent to the US-Mexican border to their bases. The caravans have not gone away, but the need to pretend the caravans represented a dire threat to the US in order to whip up a frenzy in his gullible base has gone away now that the midterms are over.

Trump's use of American troops to influence an election has been described as "unprecedented".

Comments? Questions?

A complete waste of funding for short term gain over long term goals.

 

[metis]

I think the strawman is people putting it out as being an election stunt. What did the midterms have to do with anything?

You really have to ask that question? Didn't you even hear Trump say that he was essentially on the ballot? And if this "immigration" thing was so important to him other than as a rallying-cry for pandering purposes, why is it he's only talked about it once publicly as of yesterday whereas he harped on it constantly for weeks during the campaign?

 

[Watchmen]

The left is so naive.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You really have to ask that question? Didn't you even hear Trump say that he was essentially on the ballot? And if this "immigration" thing was so important to him other than as a rallying-cry for pandering purposes, why is it he's only talked about it once publicly as of yesterday whereas he harped on it constantly for weeks during the campaign?

I suppose next you're going to say the caravan was primarily there to help things along to ensure the election stunt is such a great success as it was.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Trump supporters are really losing it on this one!!

I call it an emulation of what I'm seeing and hearing so far on the matter.

 

[metis]

I suppose next you're going to say the caravan was primarily there to help things along to ensure the election stunt is such a great success as it was.

Never said nor implied that so do you get your little jollies for making up such strawmen?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Never said nor implied that so do you get your little jollies for making up such strawmen?

Hey just linking a straw man to an already massive pre-existing chain of straw men dangling wildly in the air.

Think of it as a game of Monkeys in a Barrel. Straw Man in a Barrel.

I mean midterms? That's all the left can think of? *Yikes*

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You do realize that troops at the border is not a new idea nor unusual. They were there, and was and has proven to be an effective deterrent in assisting border protection agents.

I think the strawman is people putting it out as being an election stunt. What did the midterms have to do with anything?

Trump clearly is not in election mode at this time.

Then I have a bridge to sell you.