Trump Says He Will Invoke the Alien and Sedition Act of 1798

[Subduction Zone]

That of course is up to Trump.

Actually it is up to the courts of appeals. Due to the election everything is on hold to an extent. But if Trump loses those cases will go ahead at full speed. Very few delays will be accepted. And his guilty finding that exists will likely cause him to be imprisoned.

 

[Revoltingest]

Just like the disregard the left shows against the citizenry of this country by opening the floodgates of foreigners to just come waltzing in and when you do apprehend the illegals, you just release them into the country unsupervised with just an appearance ticket?

What's being done now to this country makes January 6th look like a little tiny insect bite on the arm of the American people.

The floodgates were open under Trump too.
And under Biden, Trump cajoled Republicans
to eschew any improvement in policy.
So is Trump really any better?

 

[SkepticThinker]

See you guys make blanket statements that don't apply and then try to say I support a felon like they are a murderer or something. I don't care about the felonies he was charged with, it was basically one crime involving business records that no one has ever been tried for. There are other felonies if he committed I would not support him. See the difference and why it is a lie to make that blanket statement.

This was in response to, "You don't care about his felony convictions. You don't care that he's been convicted of felonies. You support him for President.

Trump has been found civilly liable for sexual assault. You support him for President. From this I'm supposed to ascertain that you don't support people who sexually assault people for President???? How's that work?"

I've made no blanket statement here. I've pointed out that you are, in fact, supporting a convicted felon. You may not personally agree with the conviction - which is irrelevant - but he's a convicted felon, nonetheless. He's also a person who has been found civilly liable for sexual assault and abuse. I can see that you really, really want to avoid that fact of reality, but it's a fact that you support him, nonetheless, knowing that. I get it, I find it shocking too.

I don't agree that it was proven that he sexually assaulted anyone. It was her word against his. Why should I believe her? We don't even know when this took place. He was found liable in a civil court because he would never have been found liable in a criminal court.

And here we are again. Just dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. Ignore, ignore, ignore.

She made her case in a court of law. Like it or not, Trump is liable for sexual assault in the eyes of the law.

I guess it's easy to support a terrible person if you just imagine all the terrible things he's been held accountable for didn't really happen.

 

[F1fan]

And here we are again. Just dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. Ignore, ignore, ignore.

She made her case in a court of law. Like it or not, Trump is liable for sexual assault in the eyes of the law.

I guess it's easy to support a terrible person if you just imagine all the terrible things he's been held accountable for didn't really happen.

Trying to minimize and reject the crimes Trump has done, and indicted for (there are still three more criminal trials for him) is how his followers are justifying their support, and displacing the shame they feel. The more they openly do this it illustrates they really know what he did and how bad it is, and feel shame for their support. Making these statements in an open forum will result in pushback, and that just helps cement their resolve. It's like creationists who make false claims about biology and get pushback, and they end up feeling more defiant, and vilifying their rational and eductaed opponents. MAGA is a cult juding by the behavior we observe of those who share their thinking.

Look at Trump's "emnemy within" comments. He knows what he's doing. He's creating a justification for his followers to behave in more uncivil and irrational ways. Jan 6 was an example of how this technique works to manipulate his people. They aren't rational. They can't foresee the consequences of their actions. In many ways they are obedient ghosts whose moral sense doesn't work. This makes them very dangerous people. If Trump loses he has already primed his mob to do whatever he wants them to do. Violence is part of his history and rhetoric, and he knows he can get many of them to do it again.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

This was in response to, "You don't care about his felony convictions. You don't care that he's been convicted of felonies. You support him for President.

Trump has been found civilly liable for sexual assault. You support him for President. From this I'm supposed to ascertain that you don't support people who sexually assault people for President???? How's that work?"

I've made no blanket statement here. I've pointed out that you are, in fact, supporting a convicted felon. You may not personally agree with the conviction - which is irrelevant - but he's a convicted felon, nonetheless. He's also a person who has been found civilly liable for sexual assault and abuse. I can see that you really, really want to avoid that fact of reality, but it's a fact that you support him, nonetheless, knowing that. I get it, I find it shocking too.



And here we are again. Just dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. Ignore, ignore, ignore.

She made her case in a court of law. Like it or not, Trump is liable for sexual assault in the eyes of the law.

I guess it's easy to support a terrible person if you just imagine all the terrible things he's been held accountable for didn't really happen.

Again more statements that don't describe me. Have you agreed with every decision the supreme court has made? I doubt it. Courts make wrong decisions, I think the assault was not proven. Again not all felonies are the same. I will vote for Trump even with this specific felony conviction because his policies are better. When a government goes after a political rival you stand up to that government, you don't cheer it on like you are doing.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Again more statements that don't describe me. Have you agreed with every decision the supreme court has made? I doubt it. Courts make wrong decisions, I think the assault was not proven. Again not all felonies are the same. I will vote for Trump even with this specific felony conviction because his policies are better.

They all describe the words you've posted here. Please note that you've provided no refutation.

"I don't accept court rulings I don't like" isn't a refutation of anything.

When a government goes after a political rival you stand up to that government, you don't cheer it on like you are doing.

This is a projection of something Trump talks about doing quite often. (He does that a lot.)

This is not something that is currently occurring.
If Trump doesn't want to be prosecuted for crimes, he should stop committing them.

 

[Argentbear]

Again more statements that don't describe me. Have you agreed with every decision the supreme court has made? I doubt it. Courts make wrong decisions, I think the assault was not proven. Again not all felonies are the same. I will vote for Trump even with this specific felony conviction because his policies are better. When a government goes after a political rival you stand up to that government, you don't cheer it on like you are doing.

and how are you responding to Trump's threatening his political rivals and members of the press? “the enemy from within.” Trump has named over 100 individuals who he wants to deploy the National Guard or the military to imprison, prosecute, punish and even kill.

 

[Copernicus]

...I will vote for Trump even with this specific felony conviction because his policies are better. When a government goes after a political rival you stand up to that government, you don't cheer it on like you are doing.

But you want to make Trump the head of our government, and he is very openly going after his political rivals. You know that for a fact. Are you planning to stop cheering him on like you are doing? You seem headed in the exact opposite direction. You may try to ignore the man and see yourself as approving only his policies, but one of his very biggest policies is to use the power of government to get revenge on political opponents. Do you not see how you contradict yourself?