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Trump selecting his wingmen

stvdv

Veteran Member
To "know" whether Trump as President will be "good" or "bad" is relatively easy, as the saying goes:

"Tell me your company, I'll tell you who you are"

To determine if and how bad the future will be, we just need to fact check the people he chooses to rule with the coming years

To start with, I saw a very positive video about JFK jr. and my first impression was "he must be okay" ... I mean he portrays himself as a Saint.

I Googled a little (see wiki in #2), and discovered many alarming stories. I'll put it in my #2. Of course it could all be fake news, but if there is smoke, usually there is fire, and else I hope you'll correct and educate me

I'd love to see some facts on all his sidekicks. But please, select short clips, videos (preferably less than 2min or 3min)

28 sec: JFK claims he prayed 19y, 30min/day
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member
I Googled a little (see wiki below), and discovered many alarming stories. Of course it could all be fake news, but if there is smoke, usually there is fire, and else I hope you'll correct and educate me

I double checked with Google on JFK jr:
* I read he is a lawyer. Lawyer are liars my Master used to say (bending truth they do seem to do well). 1st doubt. He could be an exception
* Then I read his wife died by hanging; which wife with a Saintly man would do that? 2nd doubt.
* Then a wikipage raising more doubts. RFK was known among his friends for sending explicit nude pictures of women
* highly-publicized allegations of sexual assault against Kennedy by the family's then-babysitter, Eliza Cooney
* personal journal from 2001, in which he recorded sexual encounters with 37 different women. According to Kennedy, Richardson passed the journal along "to her sisters with instructions that, if anything happened to her, [it should be] published in the press".[20][21]
* Her funeral, organized by the Kennedy family, was held at St. Patrick Catholic Church in Bedford.[22][23] On May 21, 2012, a memorial service organized by the Richardson family was held at the Standard Hotel in Manhattan.[24] A legal battle between her widower and her brother, Thomas W. Richardson, ensued over which family should have control over her remains.[

Mary Richardson Kennedy - Wikipedia May 16, 2012, Richardson,had antidepressants in her blood.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
To start with, I saw a very positive video about JFK jr. and my first impression was "he must be okay" ...
I double checked with Google on JFK jr:

It's not "JFK jr." but RFK Jr.

* Then I read his wife died by hanging; which wife with a Saintly man would do that? 2nd doubt.
Mary Richardson Kennedy - Wikipedia May 16, 2012, Richardson,had antidepressants in her blood.

I believe RFK Jr. to be a disgusting choice for HHS secretary, but your reference to his second wife is disturbing.

While Mary Richardson Kennedy's suicide may well have been caused and or exacerbated by her husband, medical depression is a serious medical condition. The fact is that many suicide victims have had good and loving spouses. You comment about "which wife with a Saintly man would do that" is remarkably ignorant.
 

Wirey

Fartist
* Then I read his wife died by hanging; which wife with a Saintly man would do that? 2nd doubt.


Mary Richardson Kennedy - Wikipedia May 16, 2012, Richardson,had antidepressants in her blood.
Suicidal ideation is unrelated to the people around you. I suffered from it as a young man, and it had nothing to do with the people in my life. This comment is, frankly, disgusting and if you have any intellectually honesty whatsoever, go Google "what causes suicide" and get a little smarter.

And that's RFK Jr. John John (JFK Jr) died a long time ago.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
It's not "JFK jr." but RFK Jr.
Thank you, a big mistake.
I believe RFK Jr. to be a disgusting choice for HHS secretary, but your reference to his second wife is disturbing.
Sorry I disturbed you
While Mary Richardson Kennedy's suicide may well have been caused and or exacerbated by her husband, medical depression is a serious medical condition.
The fact is that many suicide victims have had good and loving spouses. You comment about "which wife with a Saintly man would do that" is remarkably ignorant.
Your faulty interpretation of my words

I just said "which wife with a Saintly man would do that?"

You read too much into that

What I meant was obvious, I thought, in this context: A wife who discovers that her husband was less of a Saint, praying 30 min for 19 years, while:
* Then a wikipage raising more doubts. RFK was known among his friends for sending explicit nude pictures of women
* highly-publicized allegations of sexual assault against Kennedy by the family's then-babysitter, Eliza Cooney
* personal journal from 2001, in which he recorded sexual encounters with 37 different women. According to Kennedy, Richardson passed the journal along "to her sisters with instructions that, if anything happened to her, [it should be] published in the press".[20][21]
* Her funeral, organized by the Kennedy family, was held at St. Patrick Catholic Church in Bedford.[22][23] On May 21, 2012, a memorial service organized by the Richardson family was held at the Standard Hotel in Manhattan.[24] A legal battle between her widower and her brother, Thomas W. Richardson, ensued over which family should have control over her remains.
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stvdv

Veteran Member
Suicidal ideation is unrelated to the people around you.
Thank you for your opinion
I disagree completely
I suffered from it as a young man, and it had nothing to do with the people in my life.
Thank you for sharing that
And that's RFK Jr. John John (JFK Jr) died a long time ago.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention
Sofar I would have granted you a "winner"
Sadly you totally mess up afterwards
Hence, sadly I can't give you a "winner"

===

This comment is, frankly,
Indeed it was "frankly"

NOT
disgusting
Your choice of words only tells us something about your mind ... why exhibit your mind?

See the Note below
and if you have any intellectually honesty whatsoever,
Again this tells us a lot about your mind

See the Note below
go Google "what causes suicide" and get a little smarter.
Again you belittle me

See the Note below


Note: If someone belittles me, this happens:
I know from experience, that the person usually has some unresolved trauma, usually from a dominant parent, or bullies later on in life.

Therefore, I forgive them, and take their disrespectful replies not serious. And I pray to God, that God blesses them with a pure mind.

That way, I don't get upset, angry or vengeful, and hopefully they stop their disrespectful behavior
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Suicidal ideation is unrelated to the people around you. I suffered from it as a young man, and it had nothing to do with the people in my life. This comment is, frankly, disgusting and if you have any intellectually honesty whatsoever, go Google "what causes suicide" and get a little smarter.
It does suggest a question.
Because he believes depression results from chemicals
in food, to what extent might he reject psychiatric help?
Or pursue food regulation of no value?

I can't address whether RFK Jr
played any role in her suicide.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Thank you for your opinion
I disagree completely

Thank you for sharing that

Thank you for bringing that to my attention
Sofar I would have granted you a "winner"
Sadly you totally mess up afterwards
Hence, sadly I can't give you a "winner"

===


Indeed it was "frankly"

NOT

Your choice of words only tells us something about your mind ... why exhibit your mind?

See the Note below

Again this tells us a lot about your mind

See the Note below

Again you belittle me

See the Note below


Note: If someone belittles me, this happens:
I know from experience, that the person usually has some unresolved trauma, usually from a dominant parent, or bullies later on in life.

Therefore, I forgive them, and take their disrespectful replies not serious. And I pray to God, that God blesses them with a pure mind.

That way, I don't get upset, angry or vengeful, and hopefully they stop their disrespectful behavior
I wasn't belittling you. You kinda were. I was pointing out that you were talking out of your butt. You don't understand the difference between two of the Kennedys, one alive and one dead, and you don't know squat about what causes people to commit suicide. If I seemed angry, it was probably just that I get easily frustrated with incredibly sure people who have zero knowledge regarding the subject they're discussing. I believe my opinion was philosophically in a great American documentary:

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Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
I just said "which wife with a Saintly man would do that?"

You read too much into that

One possibly answer that you clear failed to appreciate might have been:

Which wife? Perhaps a wife suffering from clinical depression.

What you managed to do -- be it thoughtlessly, ignorantly, or both -- was to cast aspersions on the spouse of every suicide victim suffering from that condition.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Had I been an American citizen, I would have voted for Kennedy, of course.
It's no mystery that my team is Gabbard-Kennedy and others...
That is why Trump's choices please me.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I wasn't belittling you.
Your words were clearly belittling
You kinda were.
FALSE AGAIN & turn facts around

FYI: This is textbook narcissistic behavior
I was pointing out that you were talking out of your butt.
I know the difference very well
You don't understand the difference between two of the Kennedys, one alive and one dead,
Again belittling.
and you don't know squat about what causes people to commit suicide.
Again belittling and false
If I seemed angry, it was probably just that I get easily frustrated with incredibly sure
people who have zero knowledge
Again belittling, and obvious not thought over
regarding the subject they're discussing.
I believe my opinion was philosophically in a great American documentary
Glad you end your disrespectful reply with a normal, not disrepectful, sentence
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Had I been an American citizen, I would have voted for Kennedy, of course.
That is why Trump's choices please me.
I saw your videos on Zelensky. They also talked about Gabbard

My first impression is positive, has served in the army, also served in a medical unit (another ++), and as a bonus also easy on the eye (+); I remember you don't mind that either;)

She has been campaigning with Bernie Sanders, who is the best choice according my friend (++), so, that gives me a clue ... she must be okay
It's no mystery that my team is Gabbard-Kennedy
You clearly are more of an expert than I am
Have you heard any negative stuff about her
Or is she just all angel material?

If she is only good
That is why Trump's choices please me.
Then Trump made a good choice, I can't believe he just chose her because of her good looks

But, that also means, she choose to work with Trump. Usually women have better instincts than men.
What do you think? She choose Trump because she thinks Trump is not that bad, or even good? Or might it be, that she thinks "I keep my enemies closest"

Of course there is the option that Gabbard, like some women, have a thing for bad guys

In short: Do you think, Gabbard is really a good one? Have you heard any negativity about her? Do you know some really good things about her?

Note: You are convinced about Trump being okay. I am not yet convinced that Trump is the best solution. He did come to me in a vision, and he was the nicest person ever :tearsofjoy:. Quite a surprise and psychologically impossible because I thought that Trump was at best the Anti Christ, I only saw negativity in Trump. After the vision, my negative view was gone, now I'm neutral ... I don't know what to believe of Trump
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
It's no mystery that my team is Gabbard-Kennedy and others...
One more question

About RFK jr. What do you make of him? Do the points I mention in #2 not bother you, especially that he might have cheated on his wife with many women?

I have to admit, when I see him speak, I don't get bad vibes. But the things I read on Wiki were quite disturbing to say the least. Maybe he has been transformed.

Do you have good reasons to Trust him? Zor is it a gut feeling or you trust him because you trust Trump to choose wisely?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
One more question
Sure.
About RFK jr. What do you make of him? Do the points I mention in #2 not bother you, especially that he might have cheated on his wife with many women?
I mean, his private life doesn't have anything to do with politics.
We all have different characters and personalities. I cannot judge his sex life, past or present.

That's totally irrelevant.
I have to admit, when I see him speak, I don't get bad vibes.
I get very good vibes.
I perceive a big heart. Very altruistic soul.
That's my impression.
But the things I read on Wiki were quite disturbing to say the least. Maybe he has been transformed.

Do you have good reasons to Trust him? Zor is it a gut feeling or you trust him because you trust Trump to choose wisely?
I believe his father and his uncle, before his father, were killed by evil minds, through proxies.
These proxies were supposed to appear as lone wolves.
That is why he believes in the same values as his father, and MLK who was assassinated in the same year.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
:greenheart:
I mean, his private life doesn't have anything to do with politics. We all have different characters and personalities. I cannot judge his sex life, past or present.
Okay, thank you. It's good to be non judgemental
That's totally irrelevant.
I do have a different opinion on this

Some people have 2 faces, quite a few actually, assuming there are quite a few narcs nowadays, who are especially known for having 2 faces; those I can't trust

e.g. If someone cheats on his wife, at night while "meditating", then I can't and won't trust such a person during the day. Truth and Righteousness are most important virtues for me
I get very good vibes.
Well, that was also my impression. And hearing him speak, with such difficulty, easily grants him a few extra points.
I perceive a big heart.
At the moment he feels alright for me also
Very altruistic soul.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt then
That's my impression.
Thank you for sharing
I believe his father and his uncle, before his father, were killed by evil minds, through proxies.
These proxies were supposed to appear as lone wolves.
That is why he believes in the same values as his father, and MLK who was assassinated
in the same year.
#MeToo ... well, I was born, not assassinated
 
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