Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Here is the problem. It is illegal to use Arlington National Cemetery in that manner. Filming for campaign ads is not allowed there.
There is a bit more detail here, but it is a "leftist" source:
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Trump tries a stunt at Arlington National Cemetery and it fails horribly:
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Here is the problem. It is illegal to use Arlington National Cemetery in that manner. Filming for campaign ads is not allowed there.
There is a bit more detail here, but it is a "leftist" source:
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Supporting Trump and supporting the troops are mutually exclusive.
This spectacle of disrespect comes as no surprise given his past remarks regarding KIA and POWs, referring to them as "suckers and losers'.
Let's not forget that republicans love to cut funding for veteran benefits and assistance programs.
How did we as a nation reach a point where almost half of Americans fail to see a disastrous dumpster fire as a bad thing?
This spectacle of disrespect comes as no surprise given his past remarks regarding KIA and POWs, referring to them as "suckers and losers'.
Let's not forget that republicans love to cut funding for veteran benefits and assistance programs.
How did we as a nation reach a point where almost half of Americans fail to see a disastrous dumpster fire as a bad thing?
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
He never called them "suckers and losers" The claim is on two different conversations he called then "suckers" and "losers". That claim has not been verfied.
In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers." While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.
Did Trump Call Fallen Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'?
A former Trump administration official and Biden recently accused the former president of making the statement.
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And it has not been proven false, so it is up to the individual to determine who is more reliable, Trump or the anonymous source. Considering I did hear Trump's disparaging comment on Senator McCain POW experience, I'll give the anonymous source my benefit-of-doubt.He never called them "suckers and losers" The claim is on two different conversations he called then "suckers" and "losers". That claim has not been verfied.
In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers." While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.
Did Trump Call Fallen Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'?
A former Trump administration official and Biden recently accused the former president of making the statement.www.snopes.com
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You cannot claim that. The Snopes article does not refute the claim. It only says that it was not substantiated. The accusations were anonymous. But that does not mean "anonymous" as they would be if they originated here. A reporter that regularly interviews and talks to Trump workers made that claim, but his source did not want his name out there. That sort of "anonymous" claim is more reliable than an internet anonymous, but it is not considered proof that Trump said it. It is merely likely true. It does fit with Trump's character and the event that led up to it. Biden did go a bit overboard in citing it as a fact. For a fact you need more than an anonymous claim from an unnamed Trump worker.He never called them "suckers and losers" The claim is on two different conversations he called then "suckers" and "losers". That claim has not been verfied.
In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers." While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.
Did Trump Call Fallen Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'?
A former Trump administration official and Biden recently accused the former president of making the statement.
So did Trump say that? We cannot know for sure.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Wow! Big yellow letters and a big yellow arrow means big worthless propaganda video.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Wow! Not clicking the link and denying it purely out of blind loyalty to Trump means big worthless forum post.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He said this garbage:
Donald Trump to Father of Fallen Soldier: 'I've Made a Lot of Sacrifices'
In his first response to a searing charge that he’d “sacrificed nothing” for the U.S., Trump said he'd created "thousands and thousands of jobs."
Trump: McCain only a war hero because he was captured
The comments sparked an immediate backlash from Trump's fellow Republican candidates
www.cbsnews.com
The man clearly has no respect for the military. And as for the quote in question?
John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.
www.nbcnews.com
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Perhaps. I said that it was a left wing source. But they are lawyers too, so when it comes to matters of law they are usually correct. You really have no clue if it is propaganda or not. But you are perfectly justified if you do not want to watch it. It goes into what they did that was illegal.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
He said this garbage:
Donald Trump to Father of Fallen Soldier: 'I've Made a Lot of Sacrifices'
In his first response to a searing charge that he’d “sacrificed nothing” for the U.S., Trump said he'd created "thousands and thousands of jobs."abcnews.go.com
Trump: McCain only a war hero because he was captured
The comments sparked an immediate backlash from Trump's fellow Republican candidates
The man clearly has no respect for the military. And as for the quote in question?
John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.
There was this as well:
"...the former president was recognizing Miriam Adelson in the audience who he awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom during his time in office. As he described the medal as the civilian version of the Medal of Honor, he went on to opine that the Medal of Freedom was 'much better' than the military’s top award, because those awarded the latter are, in his words, ' … either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets or they’re dead.' He continued by comparing Miriam to MoH recipients saying, 'She gets it and she’s a healthy beautiful woman. They are rated equal.'"
VFW Admonishes Former President for Medal of Honor Remarks
On Thursday, former President Donald Trump spoke at an event where he made some flippant remarks about the Medal of Honor and the heroes who have received it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yeah. He wipes his *** with the troops and his supporters don't care.There was this as well:
"...the former president was recognizing Miriam Adelson in the audience who he awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom during his time in office. As he described the medal as the civilian version of the Medal of Honor, he went on to opine that the Medal of Freedom was 'much better' than the military’s top award, because those awarded the latter are, in his words, ' … either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets or they’re dead.' He continued by comparing Miriam to MoH recipients saying, 'She gets it and she’s a healthy beautiful woman. They are rated equal.'"
VFW Admonishes Former President for Medal of Honor Remarks
On Thursday, former President Donald Trump spoke at an event where he made some flippant remarks about the Medal of Honor and the heroes who have received it.www.vfw.org
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
They'll throw anyone and anything under the bus for Trumpus Christ.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yep. Harris sure indeed does wipes her *** on the troops and dosent give two ****s along with her supporters who don't give a ****.
Harris conspicuously absent from public memorials honoring service members killed in Afghan exit she backed
Vice President Harris was conspicuously absent from attending public events memorializing the 13 U.S. service members who were killed during the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
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What were you saying about the first *** wiper?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Being absent isn't the same as saying she's also sacrificed to the parents of those killed.Yep. Harris sure indeed does wipes her *** on the troops and dosent give two ****s along with her supporters who don't give a ****.
Harris conspicuously absent from public memorials honoring service members killed in Afghan exit she backed
Vice President Harris was conspicuously absent from attending public events memorializing the 13 U.S. service members who were killed during the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
What were you saying about the first *** wiper?
And first *** wiper? You need to work on your reading comprehension because I said no such thing.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Oh. I guess your post # 12 doesn't exist. You better get to the delete or edit button quick then so you can make that statement true and right as rain.
anna.
colors your eyes with what's not there
He said this garbage:
Donald Trump to Father of Fallen Soldier: 'I've Made a Lot of Sacrifices'
In his first response to a searing charge that he’d “sacrificed nothing” for the U.S., Trump said he'd created "thousands and thousands of jobs."
Trump: McCain only a war hero because he was captured
The comments sparked an immediate backlash from Trump's fellow Republican candidates
The man clearly has no respect for the military. And as for the quote in question?
John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.
I remember so clearly what he said about Senator and former POW John McCain:
"He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured."
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I remember ever so clearly the words of General George S Patton....
“No dumb ******* ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb ******* die for his country".
It's good to see good quotes are still surviving in the modern era.
anna.
colors your eyes with what's not there
Anti-Semite Patton also said shell shock was an "invention of the Jews." Very MAGA.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You should try to avoid bogus news sources. That source failed when it tried to put the blame on Biden. It was Trump's plan. Trump was a coward and would not go through with it.Yep. Harris sure indeed does wipes her *** on the troops and dosent give two ****s along with her supporters who don't give a ****.
Harris conspicuously absent from public memorials honoring service members killed in Afghan exit she backed
Vice President Harris was conspicuously absent from attending public events memorializing the 13 U.S. service members who were killed during the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
What were you saying about the first *** wiper?