Trumpcare tax cuts.

[Jeremiahcp]

If that number is remotely accurate, $1 trillion should pay for one of the very best universal healthcare systems in the world.

Americans spend $10,000 per year on average on healthcare. In Europe you could have access to a universal system and private healthcare insurance for around half of that.

Unless you want to exercise your right to not have health coverage, you are still paying a 'tax' in the name of the surcharge that Americans pay to the corporations who are robbing them blind.

Americans are terrified of a government ran health care, or I should say Republicans, as for some silly reason they think leaving it in the hands of big business is better.

It is too close to "socialism" for them, which is odd considering there are public schools, public roads, law enforcement, fire departments, public water, a standing army, public parks, national parks, NASA, SSI, food stamps, subsided student loans, etc, etc etc. . . . . They apply the term "socialism" very selectively, which is anything they disagree with.

The Reps like to blame the Dems for Obamacare, but the truth of the matter is, had the Dems had it their way, we'd likely have a low cost effective universal health care instead of the current mess we have now..

 

[BSM1]

No, I do remember Obamacare was signed without reading it. The first draft was not the bill they were signing, it went through changes that nobody read.

The whole economic system is based on self interest, That's how pervasive self interest is in the professional world. Do not try to lie to me.

"But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
Nancy Pelosi

Read more at: Nancy Pelosi Quotes

 

[pearl]

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Wait 'till we see who of us his tank is rolling over!

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Right, "In God we Trust"

Which was added when?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So any secularism of government is definitely Christian.

Secularism has no religious dogma or ideology behind it. Definitely not very Christian, to grant freedom of religion when the Bible makes it so clear that the penalty for worshiping other gods is death.

But they put "in God we trust" to appeal to the religious because the majority of Americans are or at least were religious.

That was not added until the Cold War, and only to flair up an "us vs them" mentality against Soviet Russia.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Wait 'till we see who of us his tank is rolling over![/QUOTE]
What tank? His little toy tank that got smacked by gavels and kicked around by an uncooperative House and Senate that doesn't respect him like they normally do a president?

 

[Kemosloby]

Secularism has no religious dogma or ideology behind it. Definitely not very Christian, to grant freedom of religion when the Bible makes it so clear that the penalty for worshiping other gods is death.

That was not added until the Cold War, and only to flair up an "us vs them" mentality against Soviet Russia.

Nope, killing people who worship other Gods is not a Christian agenda. Vatican agenda maybe, new world order agenda maybe, as an excuse to slander and demonize their enemies for an excuse to destroy them, but not very biblical. Secular governments hiding behind religion to do their dirty work.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Nope, killing people who worship other Gods is not a Christian agenda.

It's found throughout the Old Testament, and even Jesus said to gather those who don't want him to reign over them, and kill them in front of him.

 

[pearl]

doesn't respect him like they normally do a president?

In the first place Trump is not the 'normal' president. He has done little to demand the respect due to the office. A little reminder that President Obama was treated with the same disrespect from the same Congress.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

He has done little to demand the respect due to the office. A little reminder that President Obama was treated with the same disrespect from the same Congress.

Obama still got his "honeymoon phase."

 

[VioletVortex]

In the first place Trump is not the 'normal' president. He has done little to demand the respect due to the office. A little reminder that President Obama was treated with the same disrespect from the same Congress.

I do not like Obama, however, I've never understood why people hate him to such extent that they will fabricate lies about his birthplace. As far as I know, most of the stuff that he did (especially Obamacare) was good. I don't like him from a metapolitical standpoint, what he represents was not good. Overall, other than his work with healthcare, he was a mundane, run of the mill president.

Trump is a bit worse than Obama. He is self-centered and egotistical; he doesn't care about you, your rights, or anyone's business for that matter. He only cares about the profit he's making from those who are paying him to say and do things. He is a business puppet, not some kind of enlightened individual set to bring a new Renaissance upon us.

I must admit that I went through phases of liking and disliking Trump. At first, I thought he was a ****ing clown. Then, I began to favor him over Hillary as an icon. I never at any point thought he would be competent enough to run the country. The truth that I had known all along surfaced when he bombed Syria. There were earlier warnings of course, though.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

No, I do remember Obamacare was signed without reading it. The first draft was not the bill they were signing, it went through changes that nobody read.

You're talking nonsense. I just showed you an article documenting the paper in full that was published online in December 2009 on the congress.gov website.

The whole economic system is based on self interest, That's how pervasive self interest is in the professional world. Do not try to lie to me.

So, is self-interest a good thing or a bad thing? Or is self-interest only a good thing when it benefits you, but not when it benefits others? Because that position would be entirely too ironic.

 

[pearl]

Obama still got his "honeymoon phase."

Yes he did. But this president is his own worst enemy.

 

[pearl]

I've never understood why people hate him to such extent that they will fabricate lies about his birthplace.

A black man in the white house, for many, would have been unthinkable.
Trump is much to thin skinned and vindictive to be president.

But, a big BRAVO to France.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But, a big BRAVO to France.

Yes. It would seem the West isn't going Right/Conservative like many where hoping in the wake of a Brexit vote and Trump "election."