Trump's America -- Crimes against humanity

[Jayhawker Soule]

Civilian deaths from US-led strikes on Isis surge under Trump administration

Why Is the U.S. Killing So Many Civilians in Syria and Iraq?

Trump's anti-ISIS war keeps killing huge numbers of civilians

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And how many who read the above articles are complicit?

 

[metis]

Oh, but some here at RF actually "thought" that Hillary was more the warmonger between the two, ignoring what Trump repeatedly said during the campaign as well as a leak whereas he asked his military trainer for the debates that if we have nukes how come we ain't we using them? He asked not once but three times.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, but some here at RF actually "thought" that Hillary was more the warmonger between the two, ignoring what Trump repeatedly said during the campaign as well as a leak whereas he asked his military trainer for the debates that if we have nukes how come we ain't we using them. He asked not once but three times.

Hillary has an actual record voting for & advocating for war.
So she did indeed pose a risk to be compared with Trump's.
(And we all know that he was at risk for hawkish behavior too.)
You cannot claim to know that she'd have been a peaceful Prez.

Hey, aren't you the one who complains when the Hillary subject is broached?
Something about her being a distraction?

 

[Father]

oh, lets ignore Obama the king of drone strikes who in his time in office killed millions of civilians with drone strikes. but no when the white (orange) man does it than its a problem

 

[sun rise]

oh, lets ignore Obama the king of drone strikes who in his time in office killed millions of civilians with drone strikes. but no when the white (orange) man does it than its a problem

It does not further your assertion to use stupidly high and wrong numbers.

 

[Father]

It does not further your assertion to use stupidly high and wrong numbers.

granted millions is a lot however it is a lot. and he did start the drone strike campaign

 

[Falvlun]

It does not further your assertion to use stupidly high and wrong numbers.

Good catch! I didn't notice that til you pointed it out.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hillary has an actual record voting for & advocating for war.
So she did indeed pose a risk to be compared to Trump's.

She doesn't compare. Trump still gets into Twitter wars, he was clearly a bully, he was clearly not level headed, and Hillary hadn't been named in all the lawsuits.

 

[Revoltingest]

She doesn't compare.

People are too polarized regarding those two.
Hillary voted for war, & advocated war.
Thus, she did pose a risk.
One reason Bernie was relatively attractive was his likely more peaceful agenda.
Even many Democrats agree with me on this.
So she did indeed pose a risk.

Who is riskier?
You'd have said Trump was.
I thought she was.
It's just a difference of opinion about the degree of risk each posed.

Trump still gets into Twitter wars, he was clearly a bully, he was clearly not level headed, and Hillary hadn't been named in all the lawsuits.

This is good evidence for your relative evaluation.
But my judgement call wa different.

 

[suncowiam]

People are too polarized regarding those two.
Hillary voted for war, & advocated war.
Thus, she did pose a risk.
One reason Bernie was relatively attractive was his likely more peaceful agenda.
Even many Democrats agree with me on this.
So she did indeed pose a risk.

Who is riskier?
You'd have said Trump was.
I thought she was.
It's just a difference of opinion about the degree of risk each posed.

This is good evidence for your relative evaluation.
But my judgement call wa different.

Right, they both supported wars and both lied about how much they supported wars.

 

[Revoltingest]

Right, they both supported wars and both lied about how much they supported wars.

A terrible choice, eh.

 

[suncowiam]

A terrible choice, eh.

But Bernie was the worse.

 

[Revoltingest]

But Bernie was the worse.

I didn't think so.
Where he could succeed (not starting a new war), he'd be beneficial.
Where he'd fail (turning us into a socialist paradise), he'd do no harm.

 

[suncowiam]

I didn't think so.
Where he could succeed (not starting a new war), he'd be beneficial.
Where he'd fail (turning us into a socialist paradise), he'd do no harm.

Didn't you say socialism brings along some form of authoritarianism?

 

[Revoltingest]

Didn't you say socialism brings along some form of authoritarianism?

Aye, but Bernie (not a real socialist) wouldn't impose it upon us.
Too few would go along.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

granted millions is a lot however it is a lot. and he did start the drone strike campaign

It took all of 2 seconds of Googling to find information that disproves this assertion.

 

[Father]

It took all of 2 seconds of Googling to find information that disproves this assertion.

two seconds of googling to find Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

two seconds of googling to find Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush

Which does not change the fact that Obama did not start the drone strikes as you originally claimed. Is moving the goalposts a recreational pastime or do you put conscious effort into doing it?

 

[ChristineM]

two seconds of googling to find Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush

So not "and he did start the drone strike campaign" but continued and intensified it.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

What do you expect when the commander in chief has no Empathy.