Trumps wall -- breached

[Politesse]

You're saying a defensive measure that has been tactically obsolete since the end of the medieval era somehow failed to work at repelling the will of an illegal but lucrative multi-billion dollar industry? I am shocked. Shocked.

 

[Cooky]

I have said for over a year that I can go to any hardware store and buy items to go over, go under or go through Trump's wall. What a waste of taxpayer money.

"Turns out, the wall is working about as well as can be expected, which is not that well. The Washington Post reports that smugglers have basically modified your standard issue cordless power tool that you could find at your local hardware store to saw through the new portions of the wall in just minutes. Border agents told the Post that after the smugglers slice through the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards, they are able to push the steel through, creating a passageway big enough to fit humans and drugs."

Smugglers Are Using $100 Hardware Store Power Tools to Saw Holes in Trump’s $10 Billion Wall

So what is your solution to keep these illegal aliens out of our country?

 

[Skipper]

So what is your solution to keep these illegal aliens out of our country?

Building a wall isn't the answer. How about helping their countries really develop so they can have jobs and decent lives at home?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So what is your solution to keep these illegal aliens out of our country?

We could hire them as guards to protect the border. That solution makes as much sense as a fence after all.

 

[Howard Is]

So what is your solution to keep these illegal aliens out of our country?

Maybe dog lines like we used in Tasmania to keep convicts from escaping Port Arthur.

Dog-Line at Eaglehawk Neck

Orbital laser cannons ?

Breed cobras and venomous water snakes ?

Green cards if they promise their allegiance to Emperor Trump ?

 

[Cooky]

Building a wall isn't the answer. How about helping their countries really develop so they can have jobs and decent lives at home?

That sounds like a full-time job. But I'd take it, if it meant Americans could legally buy property in their country.

...Until then, I'm for walls, armed personnel, cobras, whatever it takes at whatever cost.

 

[Cooky]

Maybe dog lines like we used in Tasmania to keep convicts from escaping Port Arthur.

Dog-Line at Eaglehawk Neck

Orbital laser cannons ?

Breed cobras and venomous water snakes ?

Green cards if they promise their allegiance to Emperor Trump ?

I don't like Latin American countries because they're greedy. They act like they can do anything they please, come here make all their dreams come true. Yet I can't buy land in their countries... That's not fair.

...They always lazily say "that's just the way it is". Until that attitude changes, then border walls are just the way it is too. And ICE is just the way it is too.

 

[Cooky]

We could hire them as guards to protect the border. That solution makes as much sense as a fence after all.

Does it make sense to leave things just they way they are and do nothing?

 

[fantome profane]

I don't like Latin American countries because they're greedy. They act like they can do anything they please, come here make all their dreams come true. Yet I can't buy land in their countries... That's not fair.

...They always lazily say "that's just the way it is". Until that attitude changes, then border walls are just the way it is too. And ICE is just the way it is too.

But it is good to know you aren’t racist or anything.

 

[Cooky]

But it is good to know you aren’t racist or anything.

I don't care about name calling.

 

[Shad]

I have said for over a year that I can go to any hardware store and buy items to go over, go under or go through Trump's wall. What a waste of taxpayer money.

"Turns out, the wall is working about as well as can be expected, which is not that well. The Washington Post reports that smugglers have basically modified your standard issue cordless power tool that you could find at your local hardware store to saw through the new portions of the wall in just minutes. Border agents told the Post that after the smugglers slice through the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards, they are able to push the steel through, creating a passageway big enough to fit humans and drugs."

Smugglers Are Using $100 Hardware Store Power Tools to Saw Holes in Trump’s $10 Billion Wall

Wall does not mean impenetrable. Without any border wall you will have a giant "passageway big enough to fit humans and drugs" thousands of miles long. Have fun

 

[Shad]

Building a wall isn't the answer. How about helping their countries really develop so they can have jobs and decent lives at home?

If a nation can not support it's own people it has no merit in existing. Concede sovereignty, simple.

 

[Cooky]

If a nation can not support it's own people it has no merit in existing. Concede sovereignty, simple.

Yep, if they agree to allowing U.S. citizens to buy their land and businesses, it would be a first step. Something that would benefit them.

...I know too many people here in California who work in the US and have homes in Mexico. You know you can build a brand new house there for only $30,000.

 

[Shad]

Yep, if they agree to allowing U.S. citizens to buy their land and businesses, it would be a first step. Something that would benefit them.

My point was not about land purchasing. It was about acknowledging that some nations will never develop to a standard of the 1st world. If those nations can not develop using internal systems then providing foreign aid is just welfare for a nation. Some nations are limited due to lack of resources. Same are limited due to geography. Some are limited due to history especially post-Ottoman Empire, Post-Spanish Empire, Post-British 2nd Empire carved up nations. The NA colonies federated. The other colonial empires fragmented. That fragmentation and maintaining it for mostly ethnic reasons is ignored as a problem. So if people want to maintain their limited and 3rd world states, let them.

...I know too many people here in California who work in the US and have homes in Mexico. You know you can build a decent brand new house there for only $30,000.

Sure. General outsourcing of industry in general proves this beyond the example itself.

 

[Cooky]

My point was not about land purchasing. It was about acknowledging that some nations will never develop to a standard of the 1st world. If those nations can not develop using internal systems then providing foreign aid is just welfare for a nation. Some nations are limited due to lack of resources. Same are limited due to geography. Some are limited due to history especially post-Ottoman Empire, Post-Spanish Empire, Post-British 2nd Empire carved up nations. The NA colonies federated. The other colonial empires fragmented. That fragmentation and maintaining it for mostly ethnic reasons is ignored as a problem. So if people want to maintain their limited and 3rd world states, let them.



Sure. General outsourcing of industry in general proves this beyond the example itself.

Yes, but for taking advantage of our taxpayer dollars, as they do, we should be allowed to exploit their low living costs. It's called a square deal.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Does it make sense to leave things just they way they are and do nothing?

False dichotomy. That was not what was happening.

 

[Cooky]

False dichotomy. That was not what was happening.

I'll take that as a no.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'll take that as a no.

Nope, you made a foolish error and need to reform your question.

 

[fantome profane]

I don't care about name calling.

Apparently, you think nothing at all about calling an entire continent lazy and greedy.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I don't like Latin American countries because they're greedy. They act like they can do anything they please, come here make all their dreams come true. Yet I can't buy land in their countries... That's not fair.

...They always lazily say "that's just the way it is". Until that attitude changes, then border walls are just the way it is too. And ICE is just the way it is too.

Ye gods and little fishes the dim hubris of colonialism.