Tunisia and Egypt ! Way to go

[fatima_bintu_islam]

I dont know how he left to Saudi Arabia, I thought the sound of Azan made him sick ?? Im sure he'll die of heart crisis after seeing all the niqabis and bearded men walking around there lol

 

[Bismillah]

I agree fatima, I don't know why the Saudis gave him immunity.

 

[Sahar]

Dedicated to the Tunisian people and other Arab nations, by Hamza Namira:

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YouTube - Hamza Namira - Hila Hila Ya Matar |

Come down O Rain!
Wash the trees' leaves
A dream - just like a rose - grows
And the crescent becomes a full moon

Enter the huts and shanty towns
And water the flowers of anger
And inform my country's tears
That the one who is going to wipe them has arrived

Drop by drop on the paths
Sing for the hearts' thirst
And do not fear the clouds O free land
Good times always follow the bad ones

Embrace me and quench my thirst
And cover with your scarf my companion
No matter how many times I fall
The journey will continue

 

[TashaN]

I agree fatima, I don't know why the Saudis gave him immunity.

It's an ancient Arab custom to give immunity for those who comes to you and protect them from any harm, and this was approved by Prophet Mohamed when Islam came, and it been given not only to Muslims, but to non-Muslims too, so it wasn't strange for Saudi Arabia to accept him "as a refugee, but not as a President" as they said in their official statement.

 

[TashaN]

Congratulations to our brothers and sisters in Tunis and all of those who walk in their footsteps.

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

It's an ancient Arab custom to give immunity for those who comes to you and protect them from any harm, and this was approved by Prophet Mohamed when Islam came, and it been given not only to Muslims, but to non-Muslims too, so it wasn't strange for Saudi Arabia to accept him "as a refugee, but not as a President" as they said in their official statement.

:clap Barakallahu feekum, but still I dont think he will stay very long before having a heart attack Beards make him sick

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

And btw, welcome back to the forums Akhi Tashan

 

[maro]

but still I dont think he will stay very long before having a heart attack Beards make him sick

I hope he stays long enough untill we send the others to him ,one by one
and they can make a *dish party*in saudi arabia or something

 

[maro]

Salaam Maro,

From my understanding Ben Ali bowed down to pressure for reform within Tunisia which helped strengthen the cause for these people to continue their protests.

Ben Ali didn't bow down to pressure out of his genorosity and kindness...but because he had no other option

Also I think it is significant that the military force did not attack the protesting citizens but chose to allow the coup to pass.

I can't say that all the military forces in the arab world are expected to act the same...but i can say that this is what's expected in my country....the egyptian military is a great institiutuion with an honurable history and no way they are going to stain it with the blood of their own people

I think if this were attempted in some of the autocratic regimes like Hosni Mubarak or the monarchies they would not hesitate to use force to remain in power.

i agree..but how is that different from what happened in Tunisia ?

So I think that while this example is certainly cause for celebration and lamentation of how oppressed the Tunisians were, I don't think that such an example could be carried out without a lot of innocent Muslims being killed in the process.

A lot of innocent muslims are already being tortured and killed in the jails of those monarchies..

and freedom has always been a reasonable reason for people to shed their blood for... which means that i can't find your point quite convincing ,abibi

I am curious are you Egyptian?

yes ,I am

 

[Sahar]

I like that pic!

And this one:

 

[Bismillah]

ok Maro I am glad that the military is not an extension of Mubarak's corrupted rule, I always thought so because of the media portrayed the police and military as the governments key to supressing Egyptian wishes.

I will pray for the Egyptians

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

I think the change is coming and inevitable...i can't tell if the exact tunisian scenario will take place in other places...This is unpredictable . But the tunisian revolutuion certainly has a positive impact on all of us . We all now know how fragile are those regimes and that it doesn't take a miracle for them to fall
The point is that the *ignition point * differs from one place to another...so, let's wait and see

What type of government do the Tunisian people want?

I also heard on the news that in Egypt today the people fought with the police. At times the police had to retreat. Is there a set of ideas that the people want to follow.

 

[Sahar]

I thought the police and security forces are to protect the people not the tyrant government/the ruling party/the president...very strange....why not just let the people express themselves peacefully? What is this backwardness?!!!

They closed Facebook in Egypt today...Twitter was banned yesterday...

 

[UmmSqueakster]

From what I can glean from watching twitter and FB for 12 hours yesterday, the protests in Egypt were overwhelmingly peaceful. Very little property damage was done, and there were constant calls for non violence. I was following 2 cities, Cairo and Mahalla (where my in laws live).

In Cairo at least, the police forcibly ejected the protesters from Tahrir Square, and some fought back.

In Mahalla, there wasn't a lot of communication with the outside, english speaking world that I've been able to find. I heard some rumors of violence, but the pictures I've seen were of large peaceful crowds.

What do the protesters want? They want a government that is responsive and accountable to the people, one that will address the issues of poverty, unemployment, high food prices, and corruption, instead of focusing on keeping themselves in power and quashing dissent.

 

[kai]

From what I can glean from watching twitter and FB for 12 hours yesterday, the protests in Egypt were overwhelmingly peaceful. Very little property damage was done, and there were constant calls for non violence. I was following 2 cities, Cairo and Mahalla (where my in laws live).

In Cairo at least, the police forcibly ejected the protesters from Tahrir Square, and some fought back.

In Mahalla, there wasn't a lot of communication with the outside, english speaking world that I've been able to find. I heard some rumors of violence, but the pictures I've seen were of large peaceful crowds.

What do the protesters want?

They want a government that is responsive and accountable to the people, one that will address the issues of poverty, unemployment, high food prices, and corruption, instead of focusing on keeping themselves in power and quashing dissent

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Is there someone there to take over and do that, if this thing goes all the way?

 

[EiNsTeiN]

I was there in Tahrir Square. The protest was extremely peaceful, but the police refused to let remain so till the end of the day!
We were forced to leave after being fought with enormous number of gas bombs and other violent techniques.

I don't really care. The revolt started already, and it's just going to be a matter of time before the government falls.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

Is there someone there to take over and do that, if this thing goes all the way?

No, there isn't. I realize this is going to be a major issue if this thing succeeded, but I'm really more concerned about removing the current government, at least for the moment.

 

[kai]

No, there isn't. I realize this is going to be a major issue if this thing succeeded, but I'm really more concerned about removing the current government, at least for the moment.

OK well stay safe and i hope it all goes well for the Egyptians.

 

[UmmSqueakster]

I was there in Tahrir Square. The protest was extremely peaceful, but the police refused to let remain so till the end of the day!
We were forced to leave after being fought with enormous number of gas bombs and other violent techniques.

I don't really care. The revolt started already, and it's just going to be a matter of time before the government falls.

MashaAllah, I'm jealous!

My husband and I are debating if it's feasible to get to Egypt to join. He's like, what will you tell your job, I'm going to go join a political revolution to take down the Egyptian government, be back in a week, kthxbye! Oh, and if I don't come back, I'm in jail being tortured :sarcastic

I used to joke in college that my profession would be political prisoner, but now that I actually see people out there risking their safety for their beliefs and ideals, I know how truly noble it is.

May Allah (swt) reward you, keep you safe and give you what you want.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

I spotted many Americans, Germans and British in the protest, and it astonished me, really!

Well, let me tell you that those who go to jail, get beaten hard and injured are the experienced protesters only, but people like me are more like chicken in such situations, especially if it's their first time, as in my case.

A huge military vehicle was shooting water jets as it runs too fast towards us. Of course, I ran away beside when the water started hitting me, but I was shocked to find tens standing still in front of it, and forcing it to stop!
It was very brave.