Two countries on one land..

[Sahar]

not4me, you're showing a lot of problems. Do you have a solution?

The only solution is the resistance and supporting it with all the possible means.

 

[TashaN]

Why impossible?

Israel won't allow such a thing to happen.

 

[Eutopos]

SA,
Actually i know most people will disagree with me, but i guess two countries will be the most suitable solution AT the time being.
A Palestinian state and a Israeli state.
what i'm trying to say, you can't punish people for a fault occured 60 years ago, maybe (definitely) it is indeed a palestinian land, but let's face it, Israelis are here now, and the existing generations have the right to live...

 

[maro]

SA,
what i'm trying to say, you can't punish people for a fault occured 60 years ago, maybe (definitely) it is indeed a palestinian land, but let's face it, Israelis are here now, and the existing generations have the right to live...

What ? , are you living with us on Earh Eutopos ?!!..Israel has just ended a massacre where more than a thousand martyr fell down and you are talking about their right to live ??
And a fault that occured 60 years ago ?
well the *innocent* future generations can still correct that fault and leave ,or at least stop the massacres they are doing

 

[kai]

SA..

I'm posting this thread to start a discussion based on an Islamic perpective towards the Palestine/Israel conflict that has been there since 70 years ago..

So, from an islamic percpective, is it not right to accept sharing the land with Israel?..

Thanks..

so how are we doing Einstein? whats the consensus?

 

[kai]

What ? , are you living with us on Earh Eutopos ?!!..Israel has just ended a massacre where more than a thousand martyr fell down and you are talking about their right to live ??
And a fault that occured 60 years ago ?
well the *innocent* future generations can still correct that fault and leave ,or at least stop the massacres they are doing

Hi Maro

Please tell me one thing if all those people are Martyrs , what exactly is the cause that they are Martyred for?.

 

[Sahar]

Hi Maro

Please tell me one thing if all those people are Martyrs , what exactly is the cause that they are Martyred for?.

In fact, even martyrdom has many forms...

Jabir ibn `Utayk reported that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:

"There are seven kinds of martyrs besides those killed in wars, defending the cause of Allah:

• 
  [*] A person who is killed in an epidemic
  [*] A person who is drowned
  [*] A person who has bedsores, causing fever and cough resulting in his death
  [*] A person who dies of a stomach disease
  [*] A person who dies in fire
  [*] A person who dies under falling debris [in a disaster]
  [*] A woman who dies during childbirth."

(Ahmad, Abu-Dawud and Nasa’i report this hadith, based on sound authority.)

Who is a Martyr? - Reading Islam.com - Ask About Islam

Another link: Types of Martyrs - IslamonLine.net - Ask The Scholar

 

[kai]

Thank you Not4me

I didnt realise that, i was thinking more along the lines of:

The term martyr (Greek μάρτυς martys "witness") is most commonly used today to describe an individual who sacrifices his or her life (or personal freedom) in order to further a cause or belief for many.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

What if Israel ended the occupation, and Palestine agreed to a two-state settlement that established peace, as well as freedom and prosperity for the Palestinian people? How would you feel about that outcome?

Suppose Israelis sought peace with their Arab neighbors. Should that be embraced, or rejected?

 

[fullyveiled muslimah]

What if Israel ended the occupation, and Palestine agreed to a two-state settlement that established peace, as well as freedom and prosperity for the Palestinian people? How would you feel about that outcome?

Suppose Israelis sought peace with their Arab neighbors. Should that be embraced, or rejected?

If that happened then there would be peace. The Palestinians want the occupation ended, and much of the bad blood between them could be eventually washed away. If that really happened, then the muslims would be compelled even through Qur'an to accept a lasting arrangement for peace. If it all resulted in good living for all where no one was in danger of being killed at any given time, then I believe that would be readily accepted by the people.

 

[kai]

If that happened then there would be peace. The Palestinians want the occupation ended, and much of the bad blood between them could be eventually washed away. If that really happened, then the muslims would be compelled even through Qur'an to accept a lasting arrangement for peace. If it all resulted in good living for all where no one was in danger of being killed at any given time, then I believe that would be readily accepted by the people.

FVH what about Hamas and Hezbollah view that Palestine all of it including the part Israel takes up is an Islamic Waqf ?

How widespread is that view ?

 

[TashaN]

What FVM said.