"Open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values." -- Dictionary .com.
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TX Lt. Gov. Blames El Paso Shooting on Not Letting Kids “Pray in Our Schools”
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sooda
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In the period from 1917-1930 "liberal" theology supported women's right to vote and contraception.
But straight white men no longer feel secure in their status. They feel threatened by presumptuous members of the underclasses presuming equality.
Isn't all social progress a result of liberal values triumphing over conservative opposition?
sooda
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Yes. Who goes backwards?
THEN:
Since slavery wasn't a "Christian construct" and Christians only participated in it for 3 to 4 centuries while Muslims for over a millennia, then one would have to say it was the "liberals" who discarded Christian traditional values and Conservative Christians eradicated it.
Most of the federals were as racist as the confederates, and the presumed purpose of the war was to preserve the union, not to abolish slavery.
Both sides were christian, and neither set out to abolish slavery. Abolition was a northern tactic to sow economic harm and chaos in the South.
The liberal, idealistic abolitionists predated the war.
Relevance?
Why is it that you see atheists behind every tree?
LOL -- I assume that's a rhetorical question.
Wasn't slavery a feature in most complex societies throughout history, including christian?
Where are you getting "only 3 to 4 centuries?"
sooda
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Jews and the African Slave Trade | My Jewish Learning
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-and-the-african-slave-trade
- Yes. Jacob Rader Marcus, a historian and Reform rabbi, wrote in his four-volume history of Americans Jews that over 75 percent of Jewish families in Charleston, South Carolina; Richmond, Virginia; and Savannah, Georgia, owned slaves, and nearly 40 percent of Jewish households across the country did. The Jewish population in these cities was quite small, however, so the total number of slaves they owned represented just a small fraction of the total slave population; Eli Faber, a historian at...
I found this to be balanced and informative:
https://www.equip.org/article/christianity-black-slavery/
Who said anything about "black" slavery?
That's an American thing.
Shad
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Shad
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Father Heathen
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Lies make baby Jesus cry. The OP clearly highlights an Evangelical politician blaming gun violence on a lack of school imposed religious practice.
Shad
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Not all of us.
Shadow Wolf
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I have. The Bible condones slavery. The side fighting for slavery was the one accurately citing it.
What else do you call it when someone says something is a great evil but god says it's ok and permits it? Simply put, they called themselves Christian, but they had a greater sense of morality than the god of the Bible.
The evidence is that no where, not once, not ever in entire Bible is slavery condemned. To the contrary Jehovah permits it and reinforces the idea that people can be captured or given away like animals and bought and sold like commodities.
As for the rest: Serve well, slaves (Ephesians 6:5); honor your master, slaves (1 Timothy 6:1); be submissive, slaves (Tidus 2:9); be enthusiastic in your service (Ephesians 6:8); multiple times he tells slaves to serve their master as if they are servings Christ, because, as he says, they are serving Christ by fulfilling their duties as slaves.