Umbrella's forbidden, machete's allowed at Times Square ball drop - Security Theater

[Wildswanderer]

Laws stop people from killing other people all the time, every day. People refrain from doing things they might want to do all the time. And the rule of law is one of the main reasons for it. Are you really so blinded by this BS "tantrum" ideology that you can't even acknowledge something that obvious?

The threat of repercussions is what stops people. It's already illegal to murder. Making more rules only inhibit the ones who want to defend themselves.

 

[We Never Know]

Isn't that why you're blaming the laws instead of the criminals?

I'm saying new laws won't deter criminals who don't follow the laws.

 

[jbg]

Perhaps if you stopped focusing so singularly on the one exceptional law-breaker you'd appreciate all those potential law-breakers that the law kept in check.

Or ordinary law abiding people who miss an event at which they have a right to be because of the rain.

 

[PureX]

The threat of repercussions is what stops people. It's already illegal to murder. Making more rules only inhibit the ones who want to defend themselves.

Some people are idiots. They need everything spelled out for them. And a lot of crimes are the result of momentary circumstances. Most of them, in fact. If we can control those circumstances, we can stop a lot of crimes.

Most shootings are the result of guns being around people who are drunk, high, or enraged, or suicidal. If the guns weren't so available and close to hand and easy ti grab abd use in those momentary circumstances, many of those shootings wouldn't have happened. Stopping crime isn;t just a matter of making the act illegal. It's also a matter of making the combination of circumstances less likely to occur.

 

[PureX]

I'm saying new laws won't deter criminals who don't follow the laws.

And you're quite wrong in a great many instances.

 

[PureX]

Or ordinary law abiding people who miss an event at which they have a right to be because of the rain.

That's the price we pay for living in a world full of deadly weapons and people who are likely to use them. But just eliminating the laws isn't going to make that situation any safer for anyone.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Some people are idiots. They need everything spelled out for them. And a lot of crimes are the result of momentary circumstances. Most of them, in fact. If we can control those circumstances, we can stop a lot of crimes.

Most shootings are the result of guns being around people who are drunk, high, or enraged, or suicidal. If the guns weren't so available and close to hand and easy ti grab abd use in those momentary circumstances, many of those shootings wouldn't have happened. Stopping crime isn;t just a matter of making the act illegal. It's also a matter of making the combination of circumstances less likely to occur.

So again you would take the means of defense away from good people to try and control the tiny percent of criminals.

 

[PureX]

So again you would take the means of defense away from good people to try and control the tiny percent of criminals.

The odds on ever needing a gun for defense are minuscule compared to the odds of being shot by yourself, or someone close to you in a fit of rage or drunken stupidity. In fact having a gun in the home makes it MORE likely that someone in the home will be shot then not having one in the home. You are actually safer without it.

But if you're a gun fetishist, as some here clearly are, you won't believe this. Even though it's been a statistical fact for many decades.

 

[Wildswanderer]

The odds on ever needing a gun for defense are minuscule compared to the odds of being shot by yourself, or someone close to you in a fit of rage or drunken stupidity. In

Nonsense. And thousands of people know otherwise.