rosends
Well-Known Member
What they "are"? That's pretty much self evident. Statistics and the fact that Item 7 even exists are pretty damning here. And what they mean? They mean what I said in my first post in the thread.
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UN Human Rights US Withdraw
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Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
So you can't or won't explain your position yourself? Don't say no one asked.
rosends
Well-Known Member
I already have, pretty clearly. If you don't get it, that's on you, not me.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
It's on all of us. We shall be left hoping we didn't lose any valuable information with your silence. Adios amigos the sun is setting.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
I hope he was protecting animal rights as well. I'm pretty sure he likes animals. But I would not call him an activist. If you're referring to Obama.
Shad
Veteran Member
No just hold both sides accountable
Nope. The UN failed by selecting some of the worst violators as council members.
Nope. I have thought the UN was a joke years before Trump.
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
And you think they should have been kept out. Really? Let's make our part of the world safe and leave the rest out? How american of you. Do you think the people and members don't know about their own and each other crimes and violations? It's out there all over - they know. This is the method of communication of long term effort to fix things.
Shad
Veteran Member
From the UN Rights Council? Absolutely. Repeat offenders have no business being on the council. These nations demonstrate each is incapable of following the very principles it is supposed to uphold by being in the UN in the first place let alone the council
Selecting violators are members does not make anything safer. It undermines the system as it demonstrates it is a shallow institution which has zero standards in it's own selection process.
I am not America...
They know. They just do not care.
Evidence.
Did Iran get rid of its mandatory hijab law after being on the Women's Rights council of the UN in 99? 2011? Nope.
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Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
Keeping those people out does not make them any better off. We include them in the decision making. You don't understand the value of that.
Shad
Veteran Member
Out of the Human Rights council? Actually it would send a message that the council isn't a joke
While ignoring those nation's violations for the sake of a participation ribbon. How wonderful.....
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
They don't ignore them. They encourage them. Cannot put enough pressure on the encourage.
Shad
Veteran Member
Encourage? Hilarious.....
Ignore them? Nope. Since some of those nations on the council are repeat violators they are not ignored. They are just on the other side as defendants rather than corrupt judges telling other nations "Do as I say, not as I do"
rosends
Well-Known Member
If you think that there has been silence, it is because you have stopped up your ears. I was very clear and expressive.
Shad
Veteran Member
Just going to point out Bush withdrew from the council's predecessor due to abuse and absurd membership. The current council was created to appease the US. Now it is failing for the same reason. It's regional quota system is a major issue as it opens the door to abusive nations to maintain said quota. Heck there are seats that never even signed the UN Charter of Human Rights. OIC for example.
I disagree completely.
I think it would do better for the Palestinian people to boot their worst enemies (Islamic leadership like Hamas and the surrounding countries) out of the Human Rights council. Pretending that they are credible advocates for human rights gives them standing they misuse to cause huge damage.
Tom
Apparently you missed post #11.
Tom
Shushersbedamned
Well-Known Member
Hamas and the surrounding countries?
Well yes I suppose removing Syria would do much good - not.
Ostronomos
Well-Known Member
Interference by the Americans is typically scorned. I'm surprised that this hasn't gotten more attention from right-wing reactionaries.
david-david
Member
Why would the entire U.S need to withdraw on the count of an U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley [which] has clashed with the council over its treatment of Israel and has repeatedly voted against U.N. measures that were critical of that country.
Why is being 'cooperative' with Just and Truth not the better way?
If the U.S can't learn something from 'them', maybe they can learn something from 'us'.