Are you kidding me?
You want me to blame the palestinians and support the well organized Israeli criminals supported by the US? No, i won't blame the palestinians because they are oppressed and their lands have been stolen from them as it still being so until today.
This insistance that the lands are "stolen" is absurd. A very large chuck of Israel was bought and paid for by Jews prior to the formation of Israel. The rest of the areas were either granted by the League of Nations after the war or "won" outright in conflicts with her "peace loving" Arab neighbors. Isreal even returned a rather large, worthless, chunk of land back to Egypt after one of their cross country engagements, so what is the problem? The simple reality is the victor in a given battle, as surely Muslims MUST understand, decides the fate of those in the captured areas. Whining and pleading about these social realities is actually somewhat moot. If you could enlighten me as to where my facts are wrong, I'd love to hear it.
Aside from this, as Muslims know fully well, a Jewish kingdom existed long before anyone had ever heard of Islam and her esteemed "messenger".
I wish to see you whine one day a country comes to kick you out of your house and country to make you FEEL the pain.
I will not wish the same on you, my friend. Is that part of the good old Muslim sense of humanity at play here? That others should suffer because they dare to think differently from "learned" Muslims?
But since you brought it up, Abu, you are a Saudi. What could you possibly know of the pain and suffering of Palestinians? Speak honestly, for I am all ears. It is unlikely that you have ever experienced anything like it. Right now, you are wealthy enough to study in KL, something well beyond the means of most and you assume you know the "on the ground" feeling of what Palestinians are going through. Please. Don't play me for a fool. Other than ranting on a relatively meaningless backwater Internet forum, what are YOU actually doing about the plight of Palestinians. Are YOU doing anything at all?
Some of them do, but you wouldn't, if you were a jew.
It rather sounds like you are admitting that only some crazy people would thank Muslims for all their brutality over the centuries. Is that about right?
We don't hate Jews and we have no reason to do so.
Oddly, that is NOT the impression I get from your run of the mill Muslim, nor is it the impression I get from the run of the mill Muslim Internet site. You can hardly be described as bossom buddies. Your own scriptures villify Jews and so by default that villification is part of the Muslim mindset. Spare me the denial. It is quite ok to not like people.
Excuse me? you are talking about whom when you say other people who have claims to own homeland?
Specifically Palestinians and Jews. Both are indiginous to the area, so what, pray tell, is the problem?
That land is a palestinian one, not a Jewish one. The Israli government found for jews scattered all around the world stolen lands to live at.
Would you rather that Adolf Hitler had won WW2? I am rather sure he would have treated Muslims with as much love and respect that he showed the Jews.
How on earth will the aid reach them when they don't have proper boarders? For God's sake, they didn't have even electricity lately. Israel almost control everything there and if the US wasn't there for Israel, the muslims would have kicked the zionests long time a go.
Dear Abu, you have not actually thought this through very much, have you. For starters, I will go by the assumption that you actually mean "borders" as, factually speaking, Palestinians do not own any land that could be sub-letted to "boarders". It is an amusing faux pas, nontheless. Of all the places to make a "Freudian slip", lol.
Now, listen up, you can thank me for the advise later, as I am about to give you a lesson in the psychology of geopolitical relationships.
1. By doing nothing and claiming nothing can be done simply reinforces the doom the Palestinians have in their future. They are cried for, hands are wrung, fists are shaken, but still, they are left to fend for themselves.
2. The world, at large, notices that Muslim nations are NOT being especially helpful in finding a solution simply because they insist on somewhat unrealisitic goals. Muslim nations are quite inflexible in the attitudes towards Israel and are in fact looked on as being hostile to Israel. Given that Israel owes its permanence, originally at least, to the "Western allies", hostility towards Israel is perceived as being hostility towards those same "Western allies".
3. The fortunes gained by Middle eastern countries are due to the infusion of mind-bogglingly large sums of cash from "Western" coffers. The life you and other rich Arab nations is paid for largely by "non-Muslim" (infidel) dollars. Without our enormous wealth you would still be a quaint folk wandering about the deserts and we probably would not hear very much about Islam or care in the slightest about Muslim sentiments on any topic. Muslims may very well conclude that this vast infusion of wealth is the "will of Allah" but in reality, it is because of the needs of Western technology. The "will of Allah" seems to apply to Muslims only when things are going good and when they are going badly, such as in the Middle east for the last decades it is somehow Western imperialism, oppression and somehow NOT the "will of Allah".
4. Back to point one, and here is the advice... If Muslims nations TRIED to physically offer aid to Palestinians on HUMANITARIAN grounds, politically speaking, Israel would look VERY bad in turning that much needed aid away. Are you getting what I am saying? If this happened once or twice, the world would not pay attention! After a few years of Israel consistently turning away medical aid, food aid and all manner of sundries destined or earmarked for the Palestinians, the world WOULD begin to notice and they would begin to judge Israel for being so callous.
We would, out of simple human compassion, begin to recognize the unflagging efforts of Muslim nations to help this sorely oppressed Palestinians. Given enough time, world opinion would force Israel into a corner. If you think I am kidding, you might want to actually try to do this and prove me wrong.
Granted this amounts to putting your money where your mouth is, but I know human nature very well, Abu and you have my utmost assurance that this PEACEFUL, non-military effort would bring your imagined foe to their collective knees within a generation -- if not sooner. But... you are not willing to do this, I'd wager.
Have you ever heard the expression, "Kill them with kindness"?
