Unconditional love

[Father]

I've come to know the people I care about, i know what they would never ever do.

I don't live in the shifting sands among bad people where nothing can be counted on. not word or deed, or intent.

furthermore, what would you sacrifice for them? would you be willing to Kill? Love without restraint has no moral issue's all is fair in love and war to such people

 

[osgart]

"i know what they would never do" not really. everyone has a side they do not share with anyone. again that love is not unconditional because you already know the parameters of there actions.

there's plenty of people out there like that. where I can see where one might never ever meet a decent person.

and human reality is indifferent to morality.

and I can see where one might never ever find the truth

but I do have relationships that have no evil in them. and killing for someone isn't a consideration nor does it ever come up.

 

[Father]

N

there's plenty of people out there like that. where I can see where one might never ever meet a decent person.

and human reality is indifferent to morality.

and I can see where one might never ever find the truth

but I do have relationships that have no evil in them. and killing for someone isn't a consideration nor does it ever come up.

Morality is Human reality. it only exists for us because we make it. there is no higher power that sits in judgment of our actions. all we are. all we do. begins and ends with ourselves

 

[Ponder This]

I think maybe people are getting a little bit confused about the difference between conditional and unconditional love.

The way conditional love works is that love is earned on the basis of conscious or unconscious conditions being met. For example, if fix me dinner, then I will love you. If you don't fix me dinner, then I won't love you.
The way unconditional love works is that conditions do not have to be met. For example, you don't fix me dinner, but I still love you anyway.

Conditional and unconditional love as it relates to terrible actions (such as murder) don't mean that there are or are not consequences for those actions. It means that in regards to love, there is or is not a condition. For example, if you commit murder, I will still love you even though you should go to jail for your crimes. The fact that you may deserve punishment doesn't mean that love has ceased. A parent who disciplines her child still loves her child unconditionally. Loving her child doesn't make her child's inappropriate behavior appropriate. It is wrong to confuse something like handing out treats to your children all the time with unconditional love.

 

[osgart]

N

Morality is Human reality. it only exists for us because we make it. there is no higher power that sits in judgment of our actions. all we are. all we do. begins and ends with ourselves

morality is the nature of intention. I do not see that there is an higher power as such. but there are motives that are just, and motives that have no just cause.

it's all about deserve. words lose their meaning when reduced to something less than intended.

take honesty. honesty is a pure motive of the heart, and it is not a blunt admission of actions.

 

[Father]

I think maybe people are getting a little bit confused about the difference between conditional and unconditional love.

The way conditional love works is that love is earned on the basis of conscious or unconscious conditions being met. For example, if fix me dinner, then I will love you. If you don't fix me dinner, then I won't love you.
The way unconditional love works is that conditions do not have to be met. For example, you don't fix me dinner, but I still love you anyway.

Conditional and unconditional love as it relates to terrible actions (such as murder) don't mean that there are or are not consequences for those actions. It means that in regards to love, there is or is not a condition. For example, if you commit murder, I will still love you even though you should go to jail for your crimes. The fact that you may deserve punishment doesn't mean that love has ceased. A parent who disciplines her child still loves her child unconditionally. Loving her child doesn't make her child's inappropriate behavior appropriate. It is wrong to confuse something like handing out treats to your children all the time with unconditional love.

consequences by other's yes. but someone with unconditional love would have no issue. their love is past condition and is beyond obsession.
many parents have conditional love for their children whether they claim it or not.
and even if they say "i still love you even though you butchered 20 children" such is a lie
we all have conditions if we are of sane mind. if a parent is a complete prick and beats and abandons their child. the child won't love them. if their child does some atrocities they chances are wont love them the same as before that.

 

[Bird123]

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE - by Sandy Stevenson

Love without condition

I love you as you are, as you seek to find your own special way to relate to the world. I honour your choices to learn in the way you feel is right for you.

I know it is important that you are the person you want to be and not someone that I or others think you 'should' be. I realise that I cannot know what is best for you, although perhaps sometimes I think I do. I have not been where you have been, viewing life from the angle you have. I do not know what you have chosen to learn, how you have chosen to learn it, with whom or in what time period. I have not walked life looking through your eyes, so how can I know what you need.

I allow you to be in the world without a thought or word of judgement from me about the deeds you undertake. I see no error in the things you say and do. In this place where I am, I see that there are many ways to perceive and experience the different facets of our world. I allow without reservation the choices you make in each moment. I make no judgement of this, for if I would deny your right to your evolution, then I would deny that right for myself and all others.

To those who would choose a way I cannot walk, whilst I may not choose to add my power and my energy to this way, I will never deny you the gift of love that God has bestowed within me, for all creation. As I love you, so I shall be loved. As I sow, so shall I reap.

I allow you the universal right of free will to walk your own path, creating steps or to sit awhile if that is what is right for you. I will make no judgement that these steps are large or small, nor light or heavy or that they lead up or down, for this is just my viewpoint. I may see you do nothing and judge it to be unworthy and yet it may be that you bring great healing as you stand blessed by the Light of God. I cannot always see the higher picture of Divine order.

For it is the inalienable right of all life to choose their own evolution and with great love I acknowledge your right to determine your future. In humility I bow to the realisation that the way I see as best for me does not have to mean it is also right for you. I know that you are led as I am, following the inner excitement to know your own path.

I know that the many races, religions, customs, nationalities and beliefs within our world, bring us great richness and allow us the benefit and teachings of such diverseness. I know we each learn in our own unique way in order to bring that love and wisdom back to the whole. I know that if there were only one way to do something, there would need only be one person.

I will not only love you if you behave in a way I think you should or believe in those things I believe in. I understand you are truly my brother and my sister, though you may have been born in a different place and believe in another God than I.

The love I feel is for all of God's world. I know that every living thing is a part of God and I feel a love deep within for every person, animal, tree and flower, every bird, insect, river and ocean and for all the creatures in all the world.

I live my life in loving service, being the best me I can, becoming wiser in the perfection of Divine truth, becoming happier in the joy of

Unconditional Love

Sandy Stevenson

This is nice and is probably the basics, however there is more to the picture. Unconditional Love always does what is best for the other. God gave everyone a different view to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have. Interaction is a critical part of learning. With interaction comes drama. This brings one us to the question. Will you be willing to walk into drama instead of avoiding it if it helps the other? Would you be willing to go through great adversity in order that another might see, understand or have a better life? Would you create adversity for another if the struggle through that adversity made someone else stronger or better?

You have such a nice discussion here. You are right in what you say, however as in life there are many sides to things. Clearly, Unconditional Love is not always the easiest thing to do. I work on mine every day.

Finally, remember interaction works on many levels. One might think they are going into drama to teach, only to discover they learned more in the process themselves. Diversity truly is a great strength and gift to us all.

You have all my Love and Kindness!!

 

[Geoff-Allen]

Ann Albers is another one of my favourites -

You are nothing less than love itself

 

[Tmac]

In your truth, does it allow you to separate the person from their behavior, can you separate yourself from your body?

 

[Geoff-Allen]

Clearly, Unconditional Love is not always the easiest thing to do. I work on mine every day.

Yes - responding to negativity with love can be a real challenge. Challenges make life interesting & meaningful

All the best!

 

[Geoff-Allen]

You have 2 love yourself first before you can truly love another person ...

Try this google search -

Tiny Buddha’s Guide to Loving Yourself Interview

Cheers!

 

[Geoff-Allen]

Here's a few thoughts from various people about the phenomenon of love -

quotes, quotations and passages on love

Have a good one!

 

[Tmac]

morality is the nature of intention. I do not see that there is an higher power as such. but there are motives that are just, and motives that have no just cause.

it's all about deserve. words lose their meaning when reduced to something less than intended.

take honesty. honesty is a pure motive of the heart, and it is not a blunt admission of actions.

Good point, using your example, why isn't love a pure motive of the heart and not just another business deal?

 

[osgart]

Good point, using your example, why isn't love a pure motive of the heart and not just another business deal?

for me, I prefer a higher motive and standard of love, than want or gain, it's compassion for good. charity begins in the heart. and goodness is decency towards what is innocent. and innocence is without guilt.

I've read a lot of people's posts, and how they diminish the meaning of the word love and good to serve a selfish desire and benefit. the way some throw words around is to reduce their meaning so as I am not even speaking the same English language with them.

I think it pointless to ramble on with people who don't regard the highest standards of a good word. to them truth is non existent and they are none even aware of it. they play with facts and infer whatever suits them.

i would say love is an ideal about innocence and others in the highest sense, and in the lowest sense it is what one takes pleasure in.

i have had this trouble with standards of words with people all my life. to where I'm talking in lcd's rather than gcd's . and even further talking in negative terms rather than positive ones.

 

[Tmac]

for me, I prefer a higher motive and standard of love, than want or gain, it's compassion for good. charity begins in the heart. and goodness is decency towards what is innocent. and innocence is without guilt.

I've read a lot of people's posts, and how they diminish the meaning of the word love and good to serve a selfish desire and benefit. the way some throw words around is to reduce their meaning so as I am not even speaking the same English language with them.

I think it pointless to ramble on with people who don't regard the highest standards of a good word. to them truth is non existent and they are none even aware of it. they play with facts and infer whatever suits them.

i would say love is an ideal about innocence and others in the highest sense, and in the lowest sense it is what one takes pleasure in.

i have had this trouble with standards of words with people all my life. to where I'm talking in lcd's rather than gcd's . and even further talking in negative terms rather than positive ones.

And a Good Sunday morning to you, fellow being.

Love for me has no high or low and when I think of unconditional love I think that I have reached a point when I believe that I have so much love that I can't be conditional with it and I get to love and be in love with everything, its as selfish as I can get.

 

[osgart]

And a Good Sunday morning to you, fellow being.

Love for me has no high or low and when I think of unconditional love I think that I have reached a point when I believe that I have so much love that I can't be conditional with it and I get to love and be in love with everything, its as selfish as I can get.

selfish in a very good way. Good morning, sir

 

[Geoff-Allen]

Here's another excellent piece -

If someone would have told me that I would not only be teaching about self-love and acceptance, but also living a life today filled with healthy relationships, an incredible marriage, unconditional self-love, freedom, peace, joy, abundance, trust, and pure appreciation, I would never have believed it. In fact, where I started is so far removed from where am I now that when I look at pictures of me from that time—while I have so much love for that girl—she seems like a shadow of the me I know so intimately today.

https://trans4mind.com/counterpoint/index-happiness-wellbeing/dailey.shtml

Enjoy!

 

[Ponder This]

consequences by other's yes. but someone with unconditional love would have no issue. their love is past condition and is beyond obsession.
many parents have conditional love for their children whether they claim it or not.
and even if they say "i still love you even though you butchered 20 children" such is a lie
we all have conditions if we are of sane mind. if a parent is a complete prick and beats and abandons their child. the child won't love them. if their child does some atrocities they chances are wont love them the same as before that.

Just because some parents put a condition on their love doesn't mean that all parents do.
For some people, love is conditional and for other people love is not conditional.
For some people, their condition on loving others is to be loved.

 

[robocop (actually)]

You have 2 love yourself first before you can truly love another person ...

Try this google search -

Tiny Buddha’s Guide to Loving Yourself Interview

Cheers!

Buddha, exactly! Love of both kinds would help the human race survive, and so would peace, non-aggressiveness and nonviolence. Those are Raelian pat-answers. However the reason we aren't just bestowed with them is the yin-yang. Anger can motivate someone to create a great business or discipline others. Outspoken love can allow a massacre. These things are good and bad but there are bad in every good and good in every bad. We have to grow up with all emotions and improve our own virtue systems.

Virtue systems are very early and can be developed a great deal.

 

[Geoff-Allen]

Picked up "The Spiritual Seeker's Guide to Happiness" for first time in ages!

VERY first chapter I am drawn to - Heal your inner child -

How will you know you have found your way in this? You will begin to feel more love of those around you instead of frustration or a need to fix them. This is truly an acceptance of the self. What you see outside of you is a reflection of what lies within. When you see others with patience and acceptance, then you can be sure that you are treating yourself with patience and acceptance.

The inner child search leads us here -

7 Things Your Inner Child Needs to Hear You Say

All the best!