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Unconditional Mind

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
An individual organism can never be more than what it was born with. Such as, someone with severe mental retardation just will not be able to become a professor at Oxford. Those born with a male brain will not be interested in doing girly things and being feminine. Someone with Asperger's can never be neurotypical.
and that proves that consciousness can adapt to any condition
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
An unconscious mind is either dead, in a coma or asleep. The last two are disputable.


consciousness doesn't have to be awake, or aware of what is outside of itself; as you have just explained. simply because the brain, transceiver no longer works, doesn't mean the signalling, information has stopped. the electromagnetic field is fundamental.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
i'm not speaking of humans.

i'm speaking consciousnesses. the universe is populated with consciousness; otherwise we are an aberration in nature.. anyone who would believe they are unique, or humans are obviously projecting their egoism.
In that case, the word "we" in the OP is erroneous?
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
consciousness doesn't have to be awake, or aware of what is outside of itself; as you have just explained. simply because the brain, transceiver no longer works, doesn't mean the signalling, information has stopped. the electromagnetic field is fundamental.
Consciousness always need a reference point
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yes it does


no it doesn't. consciousness doesn't have to be aware of otherness as self, nor does it have to be exclusively conscious of self.

many humans are not aware of themselves but others and some humans are aware of themselves and not others.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No, it doesn't. Some organisms kill themselves because they are not able to adapt and cope with their given condition.

doesn't "matter", energy, cannot be created/destroyed. simply transforms E = M(c*c).


stupid is as stupid does.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
doesn't distract from the underlying question of unconditional mind.
respectfully: that was the point I was making.

I think it's important; because, from the perspective of the unconditional mind, before there is "we"; "we" doesn't exist. But once the unconditional mind applies the limits and borders that render multiplicity ( "we" ) then "we" exist?

Maybe I'm missing your point?
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
do we enter into this existence with an unconditional, limitless mind?


if the mind is limitless does it then have direct insight as brahman?

Further...

using the word "enter" requires a beginning. a "beginning" requires a limit.

Therefore: "do we enter into this existence with an unconditional, limitless mind?" No.

1) "we" requires a limit
2) "enter" requires a limit
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
respectfully: that was the point I was making.

I think it's important; because, from the perspective of the unconditional mind, before there is "we"; "we" doesn't exist. But once the unconditional mind applies the limits and borders that render multiplicity ( "we" ) then "we" exist?

Maybe I'm missing your point?


respectfully the subject isn't about humans. its about consciousnesses; whether human, or otherwise. i'm speaking on metapsychology, on how the mind can adapt to anything and even causes the body to evolve through epigenetic and over longer periods.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Those are theories and laws of physics, not biology.


and they explain to you that energy; which consciousness is, doesn't come and go with a form. consciousness comes as an electrical impulse in a biological, or non-biological transceiver.

the bigger the transceiver the better the signal reception, conveyance.


it isn't rocket science
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Further...

using the word "enter" requires a beginning. a "beginning" requires a limit.

Therefore: "do we enter into this existence with an unconditional, limitless mind?" No.

1) "we" requires a limit
2) "enter" requires a limit


i didn't use the word enter in relationship to the mind. i used it in reference to a personality, or third density created thing.. a hive mind can still contain bots and be understood as ONE hive mind.
the form is not the consciousness. the form is a vehicle. it may be created but mind is the uncreated creator.


minds arise from the delusion that self is separate, unique at many levels. its how evil things justify their behavior in relationship to otherness
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
i didn't use the word enter in relationship to the mind. i used it in reference to a personality, or third density created thing.. a hive mind can still contain bots and be understood as ONE hive mind.
the form is not the consciousness. the form is a vehicle. it may be created but mind is the uncreated creator.


minds arise from the delusion that self is separate, unique at many levels. its how evil things justify their behavior in relationship to otherness
I'm not sure that a "bot" is a good example; because, a "bot" is completely limited. Being part of a hive mind, is the opposite of unlimited.
 
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