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Unfulfilled Prophecies in the Bible

may

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Booko said:
Well, not only that, but imagine what would happen if prophecies were all clear. It would come down to some place and time where someone was supposed to appear, and you'd get a million people trying to cram into the spot, claiming to be "the one."

sheesh, what a mess...
not if Jesus presence(parousia) is invisible , i think many will and have missed the signs , because of not keeping awake to bible prophecy, if people are waiting for Jesus to come in the flesh again they will have a looooooooooooooooog wait because he wont. for those who kept awake to bible prophecy its crystal clear.
 

AbdulRashid

New Member
The Prophecy in the Bible is just speculative, if anybody can show me one place, one small place where a real prophecy has come to pass I will become a christian. I dont want prophecy from the texts in the bible I want a modern event that was predicted. I am not being arrogant but I have never ever found anything to suggest otherwize.
 

silvermoon383

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Prophecy:

5 ¶ Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
(Old Testament | Malachi 4:5 - 6)


Fulfillment:

13 After this vision had closed, another great and glorious vision burst upon us; for Elijah the prophet, who was taken to heaven without tasting death, stood before us, and said:
14 Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—
15 To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse—
16 Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is near, even at the doors.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 110:13 - 16, recorded April 3, 1836)
 

may

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Yasin said:
I found that through reading the Bible, there were prophecies that that were not being fulfilled, i will give a example in order to start off,

A Empty Threat,

But of the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Genesis 2:17

Contradicted by:

And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:5

Interesting, in the Bible "in the day" does not mean "that very day"

And further, according to the Bible the Satan is more accurate then God himself:

And the serpent (Satan) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.
Genesis 3:4

Any comments?
Respectively, :bounce Yasin
i would say that is fullfilled good and proper,ROMANS 5;12 The reason humans grow old and die is because Adam and eve listened to satan , he said they would not die ........ what a lier he was ,from the day that they eat that fruit they were in a dieing state , before eating the fruit they would have lived forever . satan is the lier God told the truth.just because adam lived to be 930 doesnt mean God told lies , its interesting that one day with Jehovah can be a thousand years ,so adam did die before the thousand years were up
2 peter3;8 says ....However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. ..........also psalm 90;4
For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past,​
And as a watch during the night.
 

may

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MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
Oh that's handy. Where good sense makes us realize that parts of the Bible are absurd, such as the dying from eating of the fruit, then that part is figurative. Funny how literal the bible used to be, but how as science, logic and reasoning are applied, more and more of it becomes figurative.

I don't recall book and verse, but in Genesis in the story of the flood the last verse of that chapter says something to the effect of men only living to be 120 years old after that. The very next chapter makes several references to people who were born after the flood but lived well beyond 120 years of age. And this is on the same page of text.

The bible is so rife with self contradictions that it is baffling that anyone who reads it with a critical, analytical eye could come to the conclusion that it is perfectly and divinely inspired.

And Of A Happy Ending, there is no mention in Genesis of the serpent being Satan, or being possessed by Satan or any mention of Satan at all. It merely says that the serpent, being more clever than the other animals . . . .

B.

B.
this mentioning of 120 years is not refering to how long man will live ,it is refering to how long man had got left before the flood comes
Jehovah’s long-suffering was seen in Noah’s day. Over a century before the Flood, "God saw the earth and, look! it was ruined, because all flesh had ruined its way on the earth." (Genesis 6:12) Still, for a limited time, Jehovah showed long-suffering toward mankind. He said: "My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3) Those 120 years allowed faithful Noah time to produce a family and—when informed of God’s decree—to build an ark and warn his contemporaries of the coming Flood
 

may

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Solon said:
Well, some have postulated the some prophcies did occur, but this is a matter of interpretation, I like to call it prophecy after the event, happens all the time. Of some difficulty to Christians is Jesus' promise to return within a generation, clearly, he did not. And so, theologians have tried to explain this away by playing around with what time means to God. Already 2000 years have floated by, and no second coming, which is not much of a suprise to me.

S
when Jesus said THIS GENERATION he was refering to the attitudes of the people around who did not recognize Jesus , so when he mentioned generation he was refering to them in a negative way , not to how long a time period .
 

may

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AbdulRashid said:
The Prophecy in the Bible is just speculative, if anybody can show me one place, one small place where a real prophecy has come to pass I will become a christian. I dont want prophecy from the texts in the bible I want a modern event that was predicted. I am not being arrogant but I have never ever found anything to suggest otherwize.
Daniel 2;44 is a modern event and it is well established. and many are making it known , it is such GOODNEWS that it is being heralded all over the world matthew 24;14 how can you refer to bible prophecy and not look in the bible that would not make sense
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite Daniel 2;44..................its all happening in this time of the end ....dont let others stop you getting an accurate knowledge of the bible and the promises for the earth . it is real good news
 

joeboonda

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AbdulRashid said:
The Prophecy in the Bible is just speculative, if anybody can show me one place, one small place where a real prophecy has come to pass I will become a christian. I dont want prophecy from the texts in the bible I want a modern event that was predicted. I am not being arrogant but I have never ever found anything to suggest otherwize.

How about Israel becoming a nation again in one day? Read all the prophecies concerning the details of Israel being reborn, and there is absolutely no doubt that it is a modern fulfillment of prophecy.
 

may

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Ochepius said:
The Book Of Revelation Is Unfolding As We Speak. I Trust And Have Endless Faith In The Importance Of What John Had To Say About The Future. Together We Can Attempt To Interpret The Prophecy. They Are In The Reach Of All Who Wish To Grasp Them.
yes the book of revelation is most certainly being revealed and uncovered and it is being revealed to his slaves . matthew 24;45-47 faithfulness leads to great blessings especially in the last days Daniel 12;4
 

may

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joeboonda said:
How about Israel becoming a nation again in one day? Read all the prophecies concerning the details of Israel being reborn, and there is absolutely no doubt that it is a modern fulfillment of prophecy.
many things have happened to spiritual israel
 
The Bible misinterprets its own prophecies. Read Isaiah 7 and compare it to Matthew 1 to find but one of many misinterpreted prophecies of which Christians are either passively or willfully ignorant.
 
Suzy said:
I do not see Gods warning to Adam as an empty threat.

It tells us in 2 Peter 3. 8, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."(KJV)

"However, let this one fact not be escaping your notice,beloved ones,that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day."(NWT)

So when Adam died at 930 years, then it was within Gods day of one thousand years.

So, according to you, your god took 6000 years to make the Earth. If he is so Omnimax, why didn't he just snap his fingers and.........Hey Presto?
 
Reading through this thread, I have been amazed by the stuff you religious people come up with. You all talk about What God thinks, intends, does do, doesn't do, why he does, why he doesn't and none of you have any first hand knowledge of this entity's existence. You only have faith. So with the "emotion" of faith you can create all of these explanations and intentions and do's and dont's. I’ve never met a believer who wasn't an expert in the bible. For a God who works in such mysterious ways, there sure are a lot of people who are experts in his thoughts, intentions, his desires, his works, etc.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
pladecalvo said:
Reading through this thread, I have been amazed by the stuff you religious people come up with. You all talk about What God thinks, intends, does do, doesn't do, why he does, why he doesn't and none of you have any first hand knowledge of this entity's existence. You only have faith. So with the "emotion" of faith you can create all of these explanations and intentions and do's and dont's. I’ve never met a believer who wasn't an expert in the bible. For a God who works in such mysterious ways, there sure are a lot of people who are experts in his thoughts, intentions, his desires, his works, etc.

It's apparent you aren't looking for truth, just an argument.
 

may

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joeboonda said:
No, not 'spiritual' Israel, I mean the ACTUAL, physical country of Israel.
the bible tells me that many things have happened to spiritual israel
That fleshly distinctions no longer count with God is clear from Galatians 3:28, where we read: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus." And at Galatians 6:16 this composite body of believers, both Jews and non-Jews, is called the "Israel of God."
 

may

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pladecalvo said:
So, according to you, your god took 6000 years to make the Earth. If he is so Omnimax, why didn't he just snap his fingers and.........Hey Presto?
the bible doesnt say how long it took to make the earth,
The planet’s coming into existence is recounted in the Bible with the simple statement: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (Ge 1:1) Just how long ago the starry heavens and the earth were created is not stated in the Bible.
the Scriptures are more definite about the six creative days of the Genesis account. These days have to do, not with the creation of earth’s matter or material, but with the arranging and preparing of it for man’s habitation.

 

Ernestine

Member
See 2 Peter 3:8. It says that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. Adam lived for 930 years. So he actually did die within a day. No contradiction. Satan lied to Eve becaue she and Adam died just as God said. We as their offspring continue to suffer the ramifications associated with their sin. Don't fail to recognize that as soon as Adam and Eve sinned, Jehovah immediately put a plan in place to redeem humankind (See Genesis 3:15). He is working out that plan now through the establishment of his Kingdom.
 
This prophesy has not happened


"Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. "Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:29-35 NAB)
 
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