United Nations to ban religion?

[neologist]

This was a proposal submitted to the UN la few years back. The formulism site is now off line, but the formulism movement seems quite alive.

Quote:
The resolution is being proposed by Antony Last, founder of formulism.org, a site which claims that freedom FROM religion would be of far greater benefit to mankind than freedom OF religion.

Freedom from Religion | Proposed UN Resolution / Charter Amendment | Version 1.1

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS HEREBY VOW
* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of organized religion, a folly which has brought untold sorrow to mankind through the division, hatred and conflict it engenders, and
* to reaffirm an individual's right to freedom of belief, freedom of conscience and freedom of prayer, and
* to establish conditions under which these freedoms can be privately exercised.
AND FOR THESE ENDS WE UNDERTAKE
1. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the public expression of religious beliefs, including the use of symbols, clothing or markings which are synonymous with any currently or previously existing religions.
2. To outlaw, with immediate effect, public acts of worship or religious declaration.
3. To outlaw, with immediate effect, private gatherings of three or more people for the purposes of engaging in acts of worship or religious services.
4. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the publication of books, literature or articles which seek to promote religious beliefs or encourage adherence to religious doctrine.
5. To outlaw, after a period of amnesty, the personal ownership of books or materials which seek to promote religious beliefs or encourage adherence to religious doctrine. (Books of academic or social interest will be made freely available to schools, universities and public libraries).
6. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the celebration of religiously significant dates.
7. To begin, with immediate effect, the destruction or reassignment of predominantly religious buildings, such as churches, mosques and temples.


See Revelation Chapters 17 & 18

Is that some dream?

Google the lyrics to John Lennon's Imagine

Take note of religious developments in Russia.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

A silly idea that will never get anywhere. All attempting to do so will do is radicalize underground religious movements, create an incredibly strong backlash worse than it ever was with secular governments with religious freedom, and by no means guarantee governance from the same kind of prejudices seen in fundamental institution. As an irreligious atheist I value religious freedom. If people decide to set aside religious leanings as a group, let it be organically, not by force.

 

[LuisDantas]

Does anyone truly believe such a silly claim?

The UNO would never have the means nor the credibility to "ban religion". And I am sure it is all too aware of that.

Even the OP, despite the misleading thread title, admits that the proposal comes from Antony Last and was simply proposed to the UNO.

That means basically nothing. Anyone can propose anything to the UNO. Whether and how they will consider the proposals is something else entirely.

 

[Iti oj]

Does anyone truly believe such a silly claim?

The UNO would never have the means nor the credibility to "ban religion". And I am sure it is all too aware of that.

Even the OP, despite the misleading thread title, admits that the proposal comes from Antony Last and was simply proposed to the UNO.

That means basically nothing. Anyone can propose anything to the UNO. Whether and how they will consider the proposals is something else entirely.

Really can I make one? how?

 

[LuisDantas]

Really can I make one? how?

Formally, it apparently requires "an official representative of a member state".

Frequently Asked Questions | United Nations

Since the supposed news piece fails to mention any, I figure it is probably a hoax.

You will notice that there are references to it since 2004 at least.

 

[Laika]

This was a proposal submitted to the UN la few years back. The formulism site is now off line, but the formulism movement seems quite alive.

Quote:
The resolution is being proposed by Antony Last, founder of formulism.org, a site which claims that freedom FROM religion would be of far greater benefit to mankind than freedom OF religion.

Freedom from Religion | Proposed UN Resolution / Charter Amendment | Version 1.1

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS HEREBY VOW
* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of organized religion, a folly which has brought untold sorrow to mankind through the division, hatred and conflict it engenders, and
* to reaffirm an individual's right to freedom of belief, freedom of conscience and freedom of prayer, and
* to establish conditions under which these freedoms can be privately exercised.
AND FOR THESE ENDS WE UNDERTAKE
1. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the public expression of religious beliefs, including the use of symbols, clothing or markings which are synonymous with any currently or previously existing religions.
2. To outlaw, with immediate effect, public acts of worship or religious declaration.
3. To outlaw, with immediate effect, private gatherings of three or more people for the purposes of engaging in acts of worship or religious services.
4. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the publication of books, literature or articles which seek to promote religious beliefs or encourage adherence to religious doctrine.
5. To outlaw, after a period of amnesty, the personal ownership of books or materials which seek to promote religious beliefs or encourage adherence to religious doctrine. (Books of academic or social interest will be made freely available to schools, universities and public libraries).
6. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the celebration of religiously significant dates.
7. To begin, with immediate effect, the destruction or reassignment of predominantly religious buildings, such as churches, mosques and temples.


See Revelation Chapters 17 & 18

Is that some dream?

Google the lyrics to John Lennon's Imagine

Take note of religious developments in Russia.

Source: Proposed UN Resolution Would Effectively Ban Religion

Freedom of religion is protected under Article 18 of the UN universal declaration on human rights- so this won't happen:

Universal Declaration of Human Rights | United Nations

 

[Sonofason]

This was a proposal submitted to the UN la few years back. The formulism site is now off line, but the formulism movement seems quite alive.

Quote:
The resolution is being proposed by Antony Last, founder of formulism.org, a site which claims that freedom FROM religion would be of far greater benefit to mankind than freedom OF religion.

Freedom from Religion | Proposed UN Resolution / Charter Amendment | Version 1.1

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS HEREBY VOW
* to save succeeding generations from the scourge of organized religion, a folly which has brought untold sorrow to mankind through the division, hatred and conflict it engenders, and
* to reaffirm an individual's right to freedom of belief, freedom of conscience and freedom of prayer, and
* to establish conditions under which these freedoms can be privately exercised.
AND FOR THESE ENDS WE UNDERTAKE
1. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the public expression of religious beliefs, including the use of symbols, clothing or markings which are synonymous with any currently or previously existing religions.
2. To outlaw, with immediate effect, public acts of worship or religious declaration.
3. To outlaw, with immediate effect, private gatherings of three or more people for the purposes of engaging in acts of worship or religious services.
4. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the publication of books, literature or articles which seek to promote religious beliefs or encourage adherence to religious doctrine.
5. To outlaw, after a period of amnesty, the personal ownership of books or materials which seek to promote religious beliefs or encourage adherence to religious doctrine. (Books of academic or social interest will be made freely available to schools, universities and public libraries).
6. To outlaw, with immediate effect, the celebration of religiously significant dates.
7. To begin, with immediate effect, the destruction or reassignment of predominantly religious buildings, such as churches, mosques and temples.


See Revelation Chapters 17 & 18

Is that some dream?

Google the lyrics to John Lennon's Imagine

Take note of religious developments in Russia.

Also take note what happens in Revelation 19...The beast is cast into the lake of fire. Sometimes God uses evil to destroy evil. In the end, everything works out for all of God's saints.

 

[Sonofason]

Source: Proposed UN Resolution Would Effectively Ban Religion

Freedom of religion is protected under Article 18 of the UN universal declaration on human rights- so this won't happen:

Universal Declaration of Human Rights | United Nations

Perhaps before they burn our Bibles they will burn Article 18.

 

[Kemosloby]

Yeah too much backlash that way. They would probably support all religions, even create a few hundred more to water religion down and spread the people out, Then. Bible prophecy says the coming of the lawless one, he will exalt himself above everything called God or worshipped, as if he himself is God. So of course the UN, by then with real teeth, will be at his disposal. Though he may let everyone keep their own watered down religions, similiar to the Roman Empire, you must worship the Lawless one, much like Ceasar or Nebuchadnezzer of Babylon, but worse. Or be cut out of the system. "No man might buy or sell except who has the mark of the beast"

 

[Laika]

Perhaps before they burn our Bibles they will burn Article 18.

Your bibles is pretty safe.

-the UN has no police force and only has peacekeepers and so could not enforce this resolution.
-it have to get through the UN security council and could be vetoed by one of the permanant members.
-the general assembly would have to reach a consensus and it generally doesn't do that unless its meaningless enough to hurt no one.

 

[Sonofason]

Your bibles is pretty safe.

-the UN has no police force and only has peacekeepers and so could not enforce this resolution.
-it have to get through the UN security council and could be vetoed by one of the permanant members.
-the general assembly would have to reach a consensus and it generally doesn't do that unless its meaningless enough to hurt no one.

This country is only one executive order away from banning Bibles. Like it or not we are at the mercy of government. These days, their guns are much bigger than ours.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

This country is only one executive order away from banning Bibles. Like it or not we are at the mercy of government. These days, their guns are much bigger than ours.

This country is only one executive order away from recognizing a chihuahua as Secretary of State.

 

[Sonofason]

This country is only one executive order away from recognizing a chihuahua as Secretary of State.

Do you really intend to suggest that this statement of yours is equally valid to what I just posted? I suppose you might be right...I guess.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Do you really intend to suggest that this statement of yours is equally valid to what I just posted? I suppose you might be right...I guess.

No. It was over the top, I'll admit. But the OP was not credible and there appears 0 chance that any executive order to ban bibles would be signed in my lifetime. Also 0 chance of the chihuahua thing.

 

[Sonofason]

No. It was over the top, I'll admit. But the OP was not credible and there appears 0 chance that any executive order to ban bibles would be signed in my lifetime. Also 0 chance of the chihuahua thing.

OMG, how old are you? 0 chance?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

OMG, how old are you? 0 chance?

*laughs*

I turn 42 this month. So I guess I'm down to my last 100 years or so...

 

[Sonofason]

*laughs*

I turn 42 this month. So I guess I'm down to my last 100 years or so...

Optimism is an awesome tool.

 

[columbus]

This country is only one executive order away from banning Bibles. Like it or not we are at the mercy of government. These days, their guns are much bigger than ours.

This is ridiculous. You and I live in the same country. @lewisnotmiller lives in a different one, Australia. But they're very similar in that Christians run the government and are usually the ones wanting to ban books that they don't like.
Tom

 

[Sonofason]

This is ridiculous. You and I live in the same country. @lewisnotmiller lives in a different one, Australia. But they're very similar in that Christians run the government and are usually the ones wanting to ban books that they don't like.
Tom

Christians don't desire to ban books just because they don't like them. They typically desire to ban books that they believe are evil. But as long as we have evil people in this world, the subjectivity of the matter makes banning evil books very difficult. How do you convince evil people that the books they are reading are evil. It's impossible.

 

[Sonofason]

Sometime we ban evil people from existing in our societies. Why not ban evil books too?
Are books more sacred than people?