Universal Morality/Human Rights

[Mister Emu]

I'm not a Christian. If I were theist I wouldn't be under the assumption that a theistic god was omnipotent, omnipresent or omnibenevilent, or there even was such a thing as perfection or inerrance. Or that I'm playing the same sport they made the rules for.

Hailing back to act of creation not being moral supremacy in my view. Just like if the creator of straws said I shouldn't use them to blow paint across a canvas to achieve a look because that's not what they were intended for, I would say 'so what?' and move on. Intended use by a creator does not equal objective use. They use would still be subject to *my* intended application, not theirs, thus subjective. And I view morality in similar vein.

That doesn't address that being subjective in determination has no necessary connection to not being objective in existence.

Broadly speaking, at the point of protecting others from harm.

That's when you would, not the grounds for doing so.

Because we should.

Why? What grants you moral authority to make these decisions?

Wtf? Are you high?

More often than I like and less than I'd prefer.

But that's neither here nor there. If rights are properly adjudicated and imposed on the principle of 'I think we should', then we have no recourse for judgement against places and people who have done just that in a manner we object to.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

That doesn't address that being subjective in determination has no necessary connection to not being objective in existence.

It's the same thing, to me.

 

[icehorse]

Why? What grants you moral authority to make these decisions?

Jumping in the middle here, sorry-ish

When the US was created there was a certain amount of freedom of movement (FoM) in the world. The founders created a framework for how rights and laws would be determined. And people could vote with their feet. And LOTS of people liked that framework and came to the US.

This is not to say the US is perfect, far from it. But it IS a demonstration of how people can vote for a set of morals and ethics they like.