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University of Rhode Island to remove WW2 murals due to lack of diversity

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Speaking as someone who works in higher ed, universities are in a difficult position when it comes to requests like this. It's a no win situation. Regardless of the decision the university makes, someone will complain about it. When faced with this no win situation, universities will generally go with the tides of public sentiment. Right now that means flowing with the tide of inclusivity and diversity. Given the rise in racist/intolerant incidents at universities lately (at least there has been where I work) I have a hard time faulting this approach even as I find it unfortunate.

This is a refreshing and understandable view point.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
"The murals depict servicemen returning to Kingston, a class reunion, URI commencement, a South County beach scene, and students piled into a jalopy wearing letter sweaters."
(URI Homepage)

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Apparently, the reason why you only see white people there is that URI used to be an all-white college in the 1950s.
That would explain the lack of diversity.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Nearly 70-year-old murals taken down at University of Rhode Island for lack of diversity



The man who painted the mural was a WW2 vet himself, attended URI, and worked there for 30 years.



Apparently, the university has received complaints about the mural and its lack of diversity, so the decision was made to have it removed.



I'm not sure about this. This isn't a Confederate monument or anything like that. This is commemorating those who fought in World War 2.

I'm also curious as to how many complaints they actually received. Whenever someone says something like "I have received complaints," I sometimes wonder, considering how many times people complain and nothing happens.
All things pass away. I don't see this mural as being of exceptional cultural or historical significance. So it seems to me that 70 years was a good run, and maybe it's time for something new. I would have said 20 years was a good run. There's nothing wrong with updating our displays of respect, unity, achievement, etc.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Nearly 70-year-old murals taken down at University of Rhode Island for lack of diversity



The man who painted the mural was a WW2 vet himself, attended URI, and worked there for 30 years.



Apparently, the university has received complaints about the mural and its lack of diversity, so the decision was made to have it removed.



I'm not sure about this. This isn't a Confederate monument or anything like that. This is commemorating those who fought in World War 2.

I'm also curious as to how many complaints they actually received. Whenever someone says something like "I have received complaints," I sometimes wonder, considering how many times people complain and nothing happens.

Why not just color in some of the faces so everyone can feel represented?

Can't have folks thinking it is only White people that go to war.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
All things pass away. I don't see this mural as being of exceptional cultural or historical significance. So it seems to me that 70 years was a good run, and maybe it's time for something new. I would have said 20 years was a good run. There's nothing wrong with updating our displays of respect, unity, achievement, etc.
So just somebody some day wants to tear them down again?

Whats the point? Just leave the wall bare.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
All things pass away. I don't see this mural as being of exceptional cultural or historical significance. So it seems to me that 70 years was a good run, and maybe it's time for something new. I would have said 20 years was a good run. There's nothing wrong with updating our displays of respect, unity, achievement, etc.
This old discussion again, eh.
I prefer to leave the mural, & add contemporary info &
complementary works. It would be a shame if WW2
faded into oblivion (ie, history books only).
 

PureX

Veteran Member
So just somebody some day wants to tear them down again?

Whats the point? Just leave the wall bare.
Do "points" require permanence? The point is that the people and events that we want to honor, today, will pass into history, and we will want to honor new people and events, tomorrow. Life goes on.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
To want to remove offensive art from view is talibanesque.
The big difference is which eyes are offended by what.
Someone is always going to be offended by something. That's mostly irrelevant. That's the nature of the creative endeavor. But what matters to us changes over time. As it should do. So if this mural no longer reflects what matters to us, then it's time to paint a new one that does. It's just a local mural. It's not the Pyramids of Giza.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Someone is always going to be offended by something. That's mostly irrelevant. That's the nature of the creative endeavor. But what matters to us changes over time. As it should do. So if this mural no longer reflects what matters to us, then it's time to paint a new one that does. It's just a local mural. It's not the Pyramids of Giza.
It never is significant to those who want offensive art removed.
And the Taliban had even better justification (from their perspective)
because the statues were blasphemous....a crime worthy of the
death penalty. But the murals....just lacking diversity.
In a sense...I insulted the Taliban with the comparison.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
It never is significant to those who want offensive art removed.
And the Taliban had even better justification (from their perspective)
because the statues were blasphemous....a crime worthy of the
death penalty. But the murals....just lacking diversity.
In a sense...I insulted the Taliban with the comparison.
It's almost as bad as removing Confederate Participation Trophies.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This old discussion again, eh.
I prefer to leave the mural, & add contemporary info &
complementary works. It would be a shame if WW2
faded into oblivion (ie, history books only).
This generation doesn't want history. They think its not important.
 
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