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Unpleasant Indoctrination

JJ50

Well-Known Member
All indoctrination is highly unpleasant, especially when children and the vulnerable are the targets, but I know of one particular case where it is more extreme than most.

A child of primary school age (4-11) is encouraged to bring his classmates home not to play, which seems to be discouraged in that household,:eek: but so they can be subjected to Bible studies.:mad: That is sick and then some!
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Being exposed to another culture! Oh no! The horror!

I get what you're saying, but let's remember to put things in context. Kids aren't as stupid as adults like to think that they are. They like what they like, and they have brains in those heads to make up their own minds about things too.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Being exposed to another culture! Oh no! The horror!

I get what you're saying, but let's remember to put things in context. Kids aren't as stupid as adults like to think that they are. They like what they like, and they have brains in those heads to make up their own minds about things too.
I am more worried about the child whose only activity at home is god related, how SICK is that?:mad:
 

allright

Active Member
Right but its okay to bring sexual perverts into schools to teach them about the vile filth they practice with one another
and that its okay including murdering your unborn child
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Right but its okay to bring sexual perverts into schools to teach them about the vile filth they practice with one another
and that its okay including murdering your unborn child

Schools are not in the morality business and abortion is not legally murder, its a moral issue.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
All indoctrination is highly unpleasant, especially when children and the vulnerable are the targets, but I know of one particular case where it is more extreme than most.

A child of primary school age (4-11) is encouraged to bring his classmates home not to play, which seems to be discouraged in that household,:eek: but so they can be subjected to Bible studies.:mad: That is sick and then some!

How about if they were subjected to Quran studies? Or Pagan? Neat idea to have families volunteer to host neighborhood kids to experience their religious culture.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Being exposed to another culture! Oh no! The horror!

I get what you're saying, but let's remember to put things in context. Kids aren't as stupid as adults like to think that they are. They like what they like, and they have brains in those heads to make up their own minds about things too.
Really?
Most six-year-olds believe a bearded man in a red suit brings presents once a year.
Most six-year-olds believe a fairy swaps money for teeth.
Most six-year-olds believe a rabbit hides colored eggs.
They believe these things because trusted adults told them. They stop believing when trusted adults admit they fibbed.

Most six-year-olds believe in a god.
They believe this because trusted adults told them. They never stop believing because trusted adults never tell them any different.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Right but its okay to bring sexual perverts into schools to teach them about the vile filth they practice with one another
and that its okay including murdering your unborn child
Please show a case where a sexual pervert was brought into a school.


If you can't, I guess you'll apologize for making a false post.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Being exposed to another culture! Oh no! The horror!

I get what you're saying, but let's remember to put things in context. Kids aren't as stupid as adults like to think that they are. They like what they like, and they have brains in those heads to make up their own minds about things too.

My 2 yo grandson likes to correct my grammar and pronunciation. Once I pointed out a canoe floating down the river to him. He replied, "No grandpa, that's not a canoe, that's a kayak." Of course he was right.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
My 2 yo grandson likes to correct my grammar and pronunciation. Once I pointed out a canoe floating down the river to him. He replied, "No grandpa, that's not a canoe, that's a kayak." Of course he was right.

Yeah, I was that kid. Most of the kids I've been around as an adult have been like that too. They're not idiots. In many cases I see kids asking better questions than adults do because they don't have culturally-conditioned blinders on like most adults do. They aren't yet stuck in foundational assumptions that adults in their culture rarely question.
That said, I'm not going to claim to be any sort of expert on these things. I just know how I was as a kid and I definitely didn't just accept what adults told me. I had a brain, and I used it. Probably too much, honestly.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Please show a case where a sexual pervert was brought into a school.


If you can't, I guess you'll apologize for making a false post.
Drag queens being brougt into public schools in Brooklyn

You obviously misunderstood. I said:
Please show a case where a sexual pervert was brought into a school.

I did not say:
Please show a case where someone you think is a sexual pervert was brought into a school.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
All indoctrination is highly unpleasant, especially when children and the vulnerable are the targets, but I know of one particular case where it is more extreme than most.

A child of primary school age (4-11) is encouraged to bring his classmates home not to play, which seems to be discouraged in that household,:eek: but so they can be subjected to Bible studies.:mad: That is sick and then some!

To me it gets down to values. I value math, so I'm not concerned with kids being indoctrinated into math. But I think religious values vary so widely, it's a bad idea to indoctrinate other people's children with your personal religious beliefs and the associated values.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Being exposed to another culture! Oh no! The horror!

I get what you're saying, but let's remember to put things in context. Kids aren't as stupid as adults like to think that they are. They like what they like, and they have brains in those heads to make up their own minds about things too.

As long as the parents are teaching their children how to think, nobody will be able to tell them what the must think.
 

allright

Active Member
You obviously misunderstood. I said:
Please show a case where a sexual pervert was brought into a school.

I did not say:
Please show a case where someone you think is a sexual pervert was brought into a school.

pathetic
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
As long as the parents are teaching their children how to think, nobody will be able to tell them what the must think.
Sadly where the child I have in mind is concerned he is not being taught to think for himself, but to accept their highly unpleasant abusive doctrine.

My husband and I never forced our unbelief on our children, they were taught think for themselves. They are Christians but very moderate having never forced their take on faith on their children.
 
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