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US Attitudes to Communism and Socialism (2019 Report)

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation has done it's annual polling on American's attitudes to Socialism and Communism. It's worth bringing up because there is so little data on this.

Overall Socialism is
less popular than last year (except amongst young people) whilst positive associations with communism have grown amongst millennials (age 23-28). This doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are talking about (e.g. most don't know that communism killed 100 million people in the 20th century or about the Nazi-Soviet pact as can be seen below). If you want to see the full results, they are available HERE, but I'm going to copy and paste the key points to make it easier.

Marion Smith, Executive Director of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation says: “The historical amnesia about the dangers of communism and socialism is on full display in this year’s report. When we don’t educate our youngest generations about the historical truth of 100 million victims murdered at the hands of communist regimes over the past century, we shouldn’t be surprised at their willingness to embrace Marxist ideas. We need to redouble our efforts to educate America’s youth about the history of communist regimes and the dangers of socialism today.”

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Capitalism is still viewed more favorably than other economic systems, holding relatively steady at 61% favorability from 2018; however, favorability of capitalism is lower among Generation Z and Millennials at around only 50%, down 6 points and 8 points from 2018 respectively.

  • Communism is viewed favorably by more than one-in-three Millennials (36%), up 8 points from 2018.

  • 15% of Millennials think the world would be better off if the Soviet Union still existed.

  • 57% of Generation Z and 62% of Millennials believe China is a communist country and not a democratic country (compared to 88% of Baby Boomers and the Silent Generation).

  • 72% of Americans incorrectly say that communism has killed less than 100 million people in the past 100 years.

  • A majority of Americans age 35 and under trust themselves (66%) more than the community (19%) or government (15%).
  • 57% of Millennials (compared to 94% of the Silent Generation), believe the Declaration of Independence better guarantees freedom and inequality over the Communist Manifesto

  • While 80% of Americans say they trust themselves (over government and community) to take care of their own interests, younger generations are about 25% less likely to say this.

  • While 50% of Millennials say they are “somewhat likely” and 20% of Millennials say they are “extremely likely” to vote for a socialist candidate, doubling from 10% in 2018, Americans overall are more hesitant about voting for a “democratic socialist” than they were last year (53% “never” or “hesitant” in 2019 versus 47% in 2018).

  • About one-in-five Millennials (22%) believe that “society would be better if all private property was abolished,” compared to 1% of the Silent Generation.

  • 45% of Generation Z and Millennials believe that “all higher education should be free.”

  • 76% of respondents are unaware that the Hitler-Stalin pact started World War II.

  • About one-in-four Americans (27%) across every generation see President Trump as the “biggest threat to world peace” over Kim Jong-Un (22%) and Vladimir Putin (15%).
Your thoughts and comments are welcome. :)
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are talking about

That to me is the #1 question. It sounds like the survey, like so many, was superficial and did not test people's knowledge of the vast differences between Marxism, Communism and the striking differences in forms of Socialism.

It also seems that the right wing propaganda conflating social democracy (democratic socialism) and such places as Venezuela is having an effect at brainwashing Americans.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That to me is the #1 question. It sounds like the survey, like so many, was superficial and did not test people's knowledge of the vast differences between Marxism, Communism and the striking differences in forms of Socialism.

It also seems that the right wing propaganda conflating social democracy (democratic socialism) and such places as Venezuela is having an effect at brainwashing Americans.

In the past few years I've found that far left online communities (mainly reddit) have become much more comfortable using historical revisionist texts and positions that deny or minimise communist crimes and adopt the Marxist-Leninist label. Given the level of propaganda, that makes a certian level of sense, but not the wholesale denial of basically calling it "fake news" created by Nazis, Fascists and Imperialists. Regrettably, it looks part of the trend towards a "post-truth" age where anything goes. It's sad because it means people won't actually try to fix any of the problems communism caused by simply deny anything ever went wrong which is stupid. :(
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
In the past few years I've found that far left online communities (mainly reddit) have become much more comfortable using historical revisionist texts and positions that deny or minimise communist crimes and adopt the Marxist-Leninist label. Given the level of propaganda, that makes a certian level of sense, but not the wholesale denial of basically calling it "fake news" created by Nazis, Fascists and Imperialists. Regrettably, it looks part of the trend towards a "post-truth" age where anything goes. It's sad because it means people won't actually try to fix any of the problems communism caused by simply deny anything ever went wrong which is stupid. :(
That's also true about those who have forgotten and thus minimize communist dictatorship crimes of the past as well as ignoring the Crimes committed by China today.
 

Laika

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Premium Member
That's also true about those who have forgotten and thus minimize communist dictatorship crimes of the past as well as ignoring the Crimes committed by China today.

It does seem to go hand in hand, particularly as leftists now seem to rely on various state-TV channels as alternative sources of news, most of which have their own agenda. (e.g TeleSUR, Venezeula, and RT/Russia Today)
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
That's also true about those who have forgotten and thus minimize communist dictatorship crimes of the past as well as ignoring the Crimes committed by China today.
I think the problem with the "ZOMG! COMMUNISM BAD!" Narrative here is that it presents something of a false dichotomy. Communism may well have killed >100 million people last century... but how many did capitalism kill in the same period? I think a lot of the deaths under communism we call out have analogues under capitalism that we tend to ignore.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I think the problem with the "ZOMG! COMMUNISM BAD!" Narrative here is that it presents something of a false dichotomy. Communism may well have killed >100 million people last century... but how many did capitalism kill in the same period? I think a lot of the deaths under communism we call out have analogues under capitalism that we tend to ignore.
Yup. Communism has killed a lot. So has spreading democracy and capitalism. And those killed by capitalist models of for-profit health care.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Your thoughts and comments are welcome.
I can't say I'm surprised. Much younger than me and people didn't get the pro-America/West/Capitalism and Anti-Soviet/Russia/communism ideology those of us from the Cold War did. And from there, things got good for awhile with the dot com boom, then it bust and with many from about younger Gen X down feeling disenfranchised by a system that didnt deliver on its promises to them.
 
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