US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons

[SkepticThinker]

For four years Donald J. Trump has been tried in the courts and in the court of public opinion for the crime of the January six uprising. It's fair to assume not one single voter who pulled the lever to make Donald J. Trump the President of the United States of America was unaware that he instigate, supported, and will pardon, everyone who took place in that uprising.

All that's left, for the Left, is to demonize and belittle the critical thinking, and decision making, of the majority of the population of these United States of America who pulled a lever to say "Bravo!" to President Elect Donald J. Trump for trying to save us from what has taken place over the last for years, and for being willing to be point-man for the clean up made necessary when the patriotic uprising failed.

All those brave patriots who will be pardoned soon should, and hopefully will, be given a medal to document their courage, their critical thinking, and their decision making. All the monies the Biden's treasonously received from China should be confiscated and divvied up amongst those patriots whose lives he and his administration ruined.



John

You mean the "brave patriots" who violently broke into the Capitol building, violently attacked police forces, violently chanted "Hang Mike Pence" and violently tried to break into the Senate Chamber with the Senators still in it it, defecated all over the building and stole peoples' belongings?
Are those the "brave patriots" you're talking about???

 

[SkepticThinker]

You appear to be spoon-fed by the leftist media conglomerate.

He pointed out that there is no evidence that the 2020 election was stolen, and none was presented in Trump's 60+ court cases, and this is your response?
LOL

Someone is being spoon-fed something here.

They like to say that Trump lost every court case concerning his belief that the election was stolen. But the truth is that every court denied him the ability to bring the case. He didn't lose any case. That's another leftist media falsehood. The courts denied him the ability to make a case. And for good, legal, reasons.

Nonsense.

Giuliani was asked straight up by a judge if he had any evidence and his response was "no." Look at where Giuliani is now.

The President Elect, was denied the opportunity to bring a case concerning the election fraud, because according to the election, fraudulent though it was, he was no longer the sitting President (no longer President Elect). The courts used that logic to deny him, properly, the ability to bring a case. The court's correct logic was that since by the results of the election, he lost the election, he therefore can't use his executive, Constitutional, ability as President Elect, to bring a case concerning the election.

Nonsense.
Sounds like you've been spoon-fed some MAGA talking points.

That's why Vice President Mike Pence will never sniff power again in the Republican Party. If he understood what was going on, he would have known that President Trump was merely wanting him to hold off authenticating the election results until he, President Elect Trump, was able to use his executive powers to try the phony election before it was deemed fair by means of Mike Pence signing off on it. Once Mike Pence signed off on it, President Trump was no longer afforded his Constitutional right to question the election, prior to his loss of his executive rights, and thus his power to try the election.

Nope. Mike Pence did his job. And almost got killed for it.
He had no power not to certificate the election.

This was all part of Trump and his co-conspirator's scheme that you don't seem to know anything about. It didn't work, because Mike Pence has some honour and integrity and did his job.

When the media constantly claimed that every court proved the election wasn't stolen, they were lying through their teeth. They knew that the courts were saying that since President Trump was no longer President, thanks to the enormous stupidity of Mike Pence, Donald J. Trump was now a mere citizen in President Elect Biden's courts and thus no longer had the Constitutional right to question, or try, the election as President Elect.

More nonsense.

For four years the population has been fed a giant lie by the media that the courts proved the election was fair. They proved nothing of the sort. They didn't even try. And any reasonably intelligent person should understand why the January 6 patriots wanted to lynch Mike Pence. It was because he denied President Trump the possibility of using his Constitutional powers as President Elect to prove that the election was stolen before the authentication of the election made it a foregone conclusion it wasn't. Every argument or court case after Mike Pence's treasonous stupidity was doomed to failure. Had he not done what he did, a case would have been brought, the facts would have been heard, and the Supreme Court would have almost surely rendered a verdict making Donald J. Trump what he is now, four years ago.

Mike Pence's actions were treasonous? Wow. Nope. He did his job as he was meant to do. He was a true patriot on January 6th.

Biden's justice department raided President Trump's residence fearing he might have stashed away evidence to use if ever he became President again. And though he didn't stash it there, he likely has it. Only time will tell if he will determine it's worth it to prosecute the case now that the American people have already rendered a verdict in his favor. Stay tuned.

What they found was a whole bunch of classified files that Trump stole and lied about returning.
It sounds like you don't know anything about this at all either.
You should seek better news sources.

John

 

[SkepticThinker]

Hey. This is your conversation as much as anyone.



That's a good question. And it also opens a new can of worms since most conservatives believe the Covid lockdowns were partly an attempt to mess with Trump's Presidency.

A silly belief given that most countries in the world also participated in COVID lockdowns for safety reasons.
Did we have a lockdown here in Canada so we could attempt to mess with Trump's Presidency? Obviously not.

I believe the liberals used Covid as a means of causing chaos and division. It was under the guise of the Covid lockdowns that more people than usual voted by ballot. And so truckloads of ballots were prepared and dropped off in the middle of the night in order to guarantee, under the guise of the Covid lockdowns, and Covid hysteria, that Biden would win.

Nonsense.

Case in point. Both the Democrats and the Republicans preached day and night that this would be the most important election of our lifetimes. And both Democrats and Republicans believed that to be the case. And yet, miraculously, fewer votes were cast this election than last. In fact, the chart earlier in this thread show that there was an anomaly in the last election. For some reason there were millions more votes last year than there were the previous two elections, or this election?

If this was the most important election in our lifetime, why weren't there as many votes as there were last time? There were many more votes last time because under the guise of Covid, and thus more ballot voting, the deep state saw an opportunity to close down counting on Election night, which has never happened before, in order to allow truck loads of ballots to be brought in in the middle of the night. Even Trump got more votes last election because in order to disguise the guise they had to include some votes for him to make it look kosher.

Well, about a million people died during the COVID pandemic. So there's one million less voters just off the bat.

So did the Democrats just forget to cheat this time around, or ... ? Also when they supposedly cheated last time, why did they let Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell hold onto their seats? Did they just forget to rig those ones too?

Nobody closed down counting on election night.
Seriously, where do you get your news?

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John

 

[SkepticThinker]

Karma's a m---erf---er. If Trump wasn't cheated out of the last election, he would have had a Democrat House and Senate, more impeachments, no Senate confirmations, no bills passed, and MAGA would have been seriously weakened.

Because of the Democrat's dastardly deceit, Trump now has the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, will likely win the popular vote, all the swing states, such that he can pretty much reign like the king the Democrats said he wanted to be and then turned around and made him of their own free will.



John

Trump wasn't cheated out of the last election.
There is no evidence indicating what you and Trump claim happened.

 

[Stevicus]

Depending on the side they are either facts or "alternative facts".

Are they "alternative facts" themselves or just the same facts with alternative interpretations?

 

[Heyo]

Are they "alternative facts" themselves or just the same facts with alternative interpretations?

When Trump said that his auguration crowd was the biggest ever, he didn't have a different opinion, he stated alternative facts.

 

[Stevicus]

When Trump said that his auguration crowd was the biggest ever, he didn't have a different opinion, he stated alternative facts.

I considered that more a matter of idle braggadocio. I don't know if they keep exact figures on how many people show up to inaugurations or if there's any official record of such. I think they just do eyeball guesstimates (something that I'm personally terrible at). Even if Trump was wildly off the mark, I didn't see it as so important as to needing to be fact checked. I thought that was a rather petty and insignificant thing, but some people milked it for all it was worth.

 

[Heyo]

I considered that more a matter of idle braggadocio. I don't know if they keep exact figures on how many people show up to inaugurations or if there's any official record of such. I think they just do eyeball guesstimates (something that I'm personally terrible at). Even if Trump was wildly off the mark, I didn't see it as so important as to needing to be fact checked. I thought that was a rather petty and insignificant thing, but some people milked it for all it was worth.

I consider it to be a pivotal moment. It was a benign lie, but when fact-chect he doubled down, and Conway invented "alternative facts".
People who don't like facts, saw a new opportunity to deal with them, and saw it as a power move.
The rest of the world saw a pathological liar, who should never have been given the power to make his lies true or even believed.