for who? For oppressed or oppressors?
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for who? For oppressed or oppressors?
Just a description of the better world you said would happen.
You can't use a 6 year old video to justify something that happened 2 days ago.
The world will be filled with justice not a single poor person if the Mahdi is accepted and Jesus is accepted. But you guys cause too much havoc and without resistance the earth would be unbearable.
You can it’s the most unbiased way to hear his analysis of the situation when it was still calm and there was a chance to avoid conflict.
O you who believe! let no people look down upon another people for the (latter) people may be better than they, nor let women (look down) upon other women, who (- the women who are treated lightly) may be better than the other ones. And find not fault in one another (in order to defame your own people), nor call one another by nick-names. Bad is the reputation of wickedness after the (profession of) belief. Highly unjust are the people who would not abstain from what they are forbidden.
Verse 11 , chapter 49
Holy Quran
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Verse 11 , chapter 49
Holy Quran
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I don’t what know Satan has promised his friends but you will not win. May God hasten the relief - Satans plan comes crumbling down when some courage is shown. His plan is assuming he can get everyone to fear his friends. You pushed Putin to the corner but alhamdulilah finally the man mustered some courage. I pray for him to be steadfast in trying times ahead.
Ok, a world with justice and no poor people, great. What kind of justice?
Off topic.
How can I make a decision if you don't describe your better world? I'm better sticking with the flawed one I know.
I’m not the one to make promises. God has made some and I rely on his promises and guidance. We humans can be good to each other. The west as in NATO and US have not been good to my people nor to many people. You had your chance as a hegemony to do good for the world. Instead it was one evil after another.
Wildswanderer
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You mean like taking out dictators in the middle east? And terrorists?
If you're not the one then why did you make the claim? Why should I believe anything you say?
I'm all for humans being good to each other but you don't seem to be setting an example. Just insults, accusations and avoidance when asked to clarify your statements.
Nimos
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Haven't watch all of it, but from what I have heard I think his facts are correct. But his justification is completely off the grid. Saying that it is the westerns and US fault that it happened because we didn't listen to his warnings are completely uncalled for. Ukraine is an independent country, which this guy doesn't seem to even care about or recognize. Its just about the big unions and countries and their right to do what the hell they feel like. He even try to compare it to the Cuba crisis, and give an example of how the US would react if China made a deal with Canada or Mexico and if they added troops or missiles here, that the US wouldn't like that either. Which is correct, but that doesn't justify the US invading Canada or Mexico in that case, again these countries doesn't seem to matter at all in regards to his argument, its about EU, US, China and Russia and screw the rest.
This might be how the big countries/unions think, but that is completely irrelevant, because there are other countries as well and they are or should be free to choose what they want.
So even as he argue that EU and the US would like to have Ukraine on their side, they should still be free to accept that offer if they like, Russia could offer them things and deals as well rather than wreck their country as he say and invade it, which he seems to think is almost acceptable as a result of what EU and the US "did". So its a bit difficult to take him serious as he seem to believe that there are 4 important countries and unions in the world and the rest of the world and countries are just "places" for these to do what ever they feel like. A lot of what he say I believe is true, but he does sound rather delusional in how he sees the world.
But again, I haven't watched all of it, so he might catch up in the end.
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You tried to take out Assad because The extremist you trained promised they would fight Hezbollah in Lebanon if they take out Assad. You we’re gonna win till Qasim Sulaymani convinced Putin to provide air support for Iran and Hezbollah and Syrian forces.
as for other dictators it depends you support most of them especially where Shiites are put in their place out of your hate for Iran.
and Isis is son of Obama so don’t talk about terrorism when you supported even by words of Trump Obama created ISIS.
Wildswanderer
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Obama created ISIS? Do tell... Sounds like Fantasyland.
There’s a lot that can be said about America’s foreign policy. Sometimes America does good. Sometimes it does not. Countries aren’t perfect. But make no mistake. Ultimately, the party responsible for what’s happening in Ukraine is Putin, and Putin alone. You won’t agree, of course, because you are an American-hating fanatic, but that is the truth.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
You think war, hate, killing, will make you happy?
Sedim Haba
Outa here... bye-bye!
So keep listening to your media. Ignore me after all just a raging lunatic.
Excellent idea!
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