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US-Israeli Alliance at an end due to Netanyahu's remarks

CMike

Well-Known Member
Iranians aren't even Arabs, so I very much doubt this claim.

When people want to kill you, those are exactly the people you wan to negotiate peace with.
It's the people who don't want to kill you who don't need negotiation.
Fine. Muslims.

Their stated goal is to have one government controlled by a caliph.

What exactly do you want to negotiate away regarding this?
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
There was still never a free democracy in Iran.

You know just because you don't agree with the policies of an elected government does this somehow negate its status as an elected government.

Also your Republican Butthurt towards Obama is ridiculous but then again that is the way politics work in the US.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Fine. Muslims.
Their stated goal is to have one government controlled by a caliph.
What exactly do you want to negotiate away regarding this?
That goal, if really there, wouldn't appear to pose much threat to us.
We will always face threats from here or there...atheists, Xians, Muslims, Jews, etc.
We should have a strong self-defense....but we should not be preemptively attacking other countries.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member

dust1n

Zindīq
White House 'rethinking' Israel ties, peace process rules - World - CBC News

From the article:

Repeatedly, President Obama's aptly-named spokesman, Josh Earnest, told reporters Thursday the U.S. is "rethinking" and "re-evaluating," and "reconsidering" its decades-long, unwavering support of a negotiated solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The days of Washington automatically supporting Israel at the UN, striving to protect it from international isolation may be over: "That foundation has been eroded," said Earnest. "It means that our policy decisions need to be reconsidered."

Man, I've never seen so much press concerning one "rethinking," "re-evaluation," and "reconsidering."

I mean, to be fair, I also want a president who doesn't think twice, never evaluates something a second time, or, God forbid, take something into consideration.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
It would be hard to call Iran or Russia or a number of other countries' elections "free elections." Heck, it's getting harder to call America's election system "free elections."
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
You know just because you don't agree with the policies of an elected government does this somehow negate its status as an elected government.

Also your Republican Butthurt towards Obama is ridiculous but then again that is the way politics work in the US.
The Iranian president was just recently supposedly elected, however, he doesn't have power.

The petulant child in the White House is an embarassment to this country.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
The Iranian president was just recently supposedly elected, however, he doesn't have power.

The petulant child in the White House is an embarassment to this country.

You know very well that I wasn't talking about the current form of Government in Iran but rather the Governments prior to the Coup detat by the US and UK.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
That goal, if really there, wouldn't appear to pose much threat to us.
We will always face threats from here or there...atheists, Xians, Muslims, Jews, etc.
We should have a strong self-defense....but we should not be preemptively attacking other countries.
The defense didn't work very well during the 911 attack did it?

Terrorists from other countries can come here and carry out terrorist attacks.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The defense didn't work very well during the 911 attack did it?
Terrorists from other countries can come here and carry out terrorist attacks.
Then we should continue preparing.
But a preemptive attack on Iran would likely inspire more terrorism.
It behooves Americastan to place its own interest above the paranoid wants of Israel & other Zionists.
And I say that peace serves us (& Israel, even though they don't seem to know it).
 
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