US officially quits Paris climate accord

[leov]

US Formally Notifies United Nations of Withdrawal From Paris Climate Accord - State Department
"US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed Monday that the US had kicked off the formal withdrawal process, while stressing that Washington is proud of its "record as a world leader in reducing all emissions".

 

[Terry Sampson]

 

[robocop (actually)]

I heard CO2 levels were at a 25-year low under his presidency! Democrats can hardly complain.

 

[Terry Sampson]

"The United States produced 5.14 billion metric tons of carbon-dioxide equivalent greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in 2017, the lowest since the early 1990s,[1] but still the second largest in the world after greenhouse gas emissions by China and amongst the worst countries by greenhouse gas emissions per person."
Greenhouse gas emissions by the United States - Wikipedia

 

[Howard Is]

I heard CO2 levels were at a 25-year low under his presidency! Democrats can hardly complain.

It is way past the time when people can afford to look at global warming as a partisan political issue. If there ever was such a time.

The question is not whether or not the levels are lower than at some previous time.
The only issue is whether current emission levels are sustainable, or even survivable.

If your great grandchildren find themselves in a hell-on-earth, they aren’t going to be impressed that it got that way because the issue became just another binary opposition cultural football.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I heard CO2 levels were at a 25-year low under his presidency! Democrats can hardly complain.

You heard wrong.

 

[BSM1]

It is way past the time when people can afford to look at global warming as a partisan political issue. If there ever was such a time.

The question is not whether or not the levels are lower than at some previous time.
The only issue is whether current emission levels are sustainable, or even survivable.

If your great grandchildren find themselves in a hell-on-earth, they aren’t going to be impressed that it got that way because the issue became just another binary opposition cultural football.

Can you really seriously care what your great grandchildren will inherit? What makes you think you have the least bit of control of anything in a future world? My great grandparents grew up in the horse and buggy days..literally. Do you think they gave a rat's butt about my having it easy? My children's great grandparents grew up trying to survive a devastating depression between two world wars. Do you think my children's world was a priority in their minds? Even if this catastrophic climate change BS wasn't a great hoax, what in the world do you think you could even do about it? BTW, one reason we pulled out of the Paris Accord was that it was NON-BINDING! for the countries that were (and still are) the biggest polluters.

 

[Howard Is]

Can you really seriously care what your great grandchildren will inherit?

I do care.
That is an irrefutable personal experience.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you really seriously care what your great grandchildren will inherit? What makes you think you have the least bit of control of anything in a future world? My great grandparents grew up in the horse and buggy days..literally. Do you think they gave a rat's butt about my having it easy? My children's great grandparents grew up trying to survive a devastating depression between two world wars. Do you think my children's world was a priority in their minds? Even if this catastrophic climate change BS wasn't a great hoax, what in the world do you think you could even do about it? BTW, one reason we pulled out of the Paris Accord was that it was NON-BINDING! for the countries that were (and still are) the biggest polluters.

Most of them wanted a better world for their children, it looks like you don't care for yours at all. And I can see that you do not understand how progress is made this way. The first step is a non-binding resolution. When countries figure that they can live with it they then proceed to make it binding.

And of course then there is the next step. Enforcing it on the rest of the world. Today's battles are fought through trade. If a country does not work to improve trade sanctions will be set. It was foolish to drop out since instead of possibly giving out sanctions we could be on the receiving end.

 

[robocop (actually)]

You heard wrong.

I read it at whitehouse.gov .

 

[robocop (actually)]

Can you really seriously care what your great grandchildren will inherit?

How misguided can you get?

 

[BSM1]

Most of them wanted a better world for their children, it looks like you don't care for yours at all. And I can see that you do not understand how progress is made this way. The first step is a non-binding resolution. When countries figure that they can live with it they then proceed to make it binding.

And of course then there is the next step. Enforcing it on the rest of the world. Today's battles are fought through trade. If a country does not work to improve trade sanctions will be set. It was foolish to drop out since instead of possibly giving out sanctions we could be on the receiving end.

The Hell they did. Most of them wanted to eat the next day...

 

[BSM1]

How misguided can you get?

How misguided do you want me?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It is way past the time when people can afford to look at global warming as a partisan political issue. If there ever was such a time.

The question is not whether or not the levels are lower than at some previous time.
The only issue is whether current emission levels are sustainable, or even survivable.

If your great grandchildren find themselves in a hell-on-earth, they aren’t going to be impressed that it got that way because the issue became just another binary opposition cultural football.

And if we don't make some inconvenient sacrifices now, it will basically assure these great grandchildren will be living under dictators who will force them to, and to far greater extents.

 

[leov]

I heard CO2 levels were at a 25-year low under his presidency! Democrats can hardly complain.

I heard CO2 levels were at a 25-year low under his presidency! Democrats can hardly complain.

it much more simple: US is number one oil exporter in the world and it does not fit Paris accord. Oil Companies Must Cut Production by 35% to Meet Paris Climate Accord Numbers by 2040: Report

 

[Bear Wild]

US Formally Notifies United Nations of Withdrawal From Paris Climate Accord - State Department
"US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed Monday that the US had kicked off the formal withdrawal process, while stressing that Washington is proud of its "record as a world leader in reducing all emissions".

It is sad to think the US has sunk this low in its politics. But, this is the same president who wanted to by and exploit Greenland now that the ice has melted. Every time I think it cannot get worse this president proves me wrong.

 

[Bear Wild]

And if we don't make some inconvenient sacrifices now, it will basically assure these great grandchildren will be living under dictators who will force them to, and to far greater extents.

That's only if there will be a place for them to live. California burns, Alaska melts and Miami is slowly going under water and the US president does not care.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's only if there will be a place for them to live. California burns, Alaska melts and Miami is slowly going under water and the US president does not care.

Of course not. When the real trouble hits he will long be dead. Has there ever been a President with less empathy than tRump?

 

[leov]

It is sad to think the US has sunk this low in its politics. But, this is the same president who wanted to by and exploit Greenland now that the ice has melted. Every time I think it cannot get worse this president proves me wrong.

i do not think that any un-manipulated truth ever reached ears of US voters.

 

[Mindmaster]

US Formally Notifies United Nations of Withdrawal From Paris Climate Accord - State Department
"US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed Monday that the US had kicked off the formal withdrawal process, while stressing that Washington is proud of its "record as a world leader in reducing all emissions".

I'm pretty sure climate change is bull**** anyway, but to be frank the parties that cause most of the pollution weren't even involved in the accord. So, it's just a bunch of nations who barely contribute to the total problem standing around and giving each other handies. Mind you, not that I necessarily fault the countries that are doing it greatly -- except for China (which certainly has access to modern technology/solutions), as most of them are developing nations.

The other thing worth noting is pollution is decreasing rapidly and at a 50 year low, and we've seemed to be getting colder than warmer. But, evidence doesn't matter.