US Supreme Court to hear election case

[Shaul]

The US Supreme Court has announced it will hear a case concerning whether Federal election rules are the sole province of State Legislatures or if State Courts have jurisdiction.

Supreme Court takes up new bombshell elections case

 

[Shaul]

This could impact the 2024 elections.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I hope they do the right thing and keep it up for the courts where things like evidence and Constitutionality matter. 6-3ing this would only take more rights away from the voters.

 

[The Hammer]

Welp.... There goes the country.

Not confident this won't be 6-3'd.

Like every other ****ing thing in recent weeks.

 

[The Hammer]

The US Supreme Court has announced it will hear a case concerning whether Federal election rules are the sole province of State Legislatures or if State Courts have jurisdiction.

Supreme Court takes up new bombshell elections case

""the “independent state legislature” theory, which would give state legislatures the authority to set rules for federal elections even if those rules violated state constitutions or helped facilitate partisan gerrymandering. "".

Why would this even appeal to you? Like, what exactly is there to gain from this? Like at all?

 

[The Hammer]

"The North Carolina Department of Justice argued that the Supreme Court should not examine the issue.

“Two decades ago, the North Carolina General Assembly passed a law expressly codifying the state courts’ authority to review legislative redistricting efforts,” the state’s brief stated. “At the same time, the legislature specifically authorized the state courts to ‘impose an interim districting plan’ in situations like the one giving rise to this appeal. The North Carolina state courts thus have not ‘taken it upon themselves to set’ federal elections rules — the state legislature itself designed a statutory redistricting regime that expressly contemplates the courts’ involvement.”"

So SCOTUS is just playing politics. So much for bipartisan eh? @Shaul

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Welp.... There goes the country.

Not confident this won't be 6-3'd.

Like every other ****ing thing in recent weeks.

Yeah, I am feeling pessimistic about this. This would definitely continue to erode Democracy in this country if it becomes left to state legislatures.

 

[The Hammer]

Yeah, I am feeling pessimistic about this. This would definitely continue to erode Democracy in this country if it becomes left to state legislatures.

Yeah. It's truly a sad day for democracy. These sycophants to themselves need to be stopped.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

If this ruling goes poorly than it's literally the end of our democracy.

 

[Kenny]

The US Supreme Court has announced it will hear a case concerning whether Federal election rules are the sole province of State Legislatures or if State Courts have jurisdiction.

Supreme Court takes up new bombshell elections case

I think this is a good thing to take up and clear the slate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

""the “independent state legislature” theory, which would give state legislatures the authority to set rules for federal elections even if those rules violated state constitutions or helped facilitate partisan gerrymandering. "".

Why would this even appeal to you? Like, what exactly is there to gain from this? Like at all?

They are openly stating that they want to cheat to win. And three of the idiots on the Supreme Court think that it is a good idea according to the article. Scary times. every time I think "It can't get any worse" it does. I think think that the Republicans know that they have screwed up big time and are determined to maintain their power by any means necesaary.

Please, it is time to send gift certificates to Clarence Thomas. KFC, Popeye's anything high in cholesterol or sodium will do.

 

[The Hammer]

I think this is a good thing to take up and clear the slate.

What good exactly does this do.

What needs to be cleared that hasn't already been done?

 

[Debater Slayer]

Since the SCOTUS majority have already decided that state legislature should have the right to ban elective abortion and hinted at a similar fate for same-sex marriage, I'm not holding my breath that this will be different.

I just hope I'm proven wrong, but I doubt it.

 

[pearl]

Please, it is time to send gift certificates to Clarence Thomas.

If the 'Me Too' generation existed when Thomas was nominated, I don't think he would not have been confirmed.

 

[Shaul]

"The North Carolina Department of Justice argued that the Supreme Court should not examine the issue.

“Two decades ago, the North Carolina General Assembly passed a law expressly codifying the state courts’ authority to review legislative redistricting efforts,” the state’s brief stated. “At the same time, the legislature specifically authorized the state courts to ‘impose an interim districting plan’ in situations like the one giving rise to this appeal. The North Carolina state courts thus have not ‘taken it upon themselves to set’ federal elections rules — the state legislature itself designed a statutory redistricting regime that expressly contemplates the courts’ involvement.”"

So SCOTUS is just playing politics. So much for bipartisan eh? @Shaul

Your conclusion is a non sequitur. The issue just never came up to the Court until now. You also assume their intentions. There are other more likely possibilities of their intentions. Do you think you might be projecting?

 

[Shaul]

They are openly stating that they want to cheat to win. And three of the idiots on the Supreme Court think that it is a good idea according to the article. Scary times. every time I think "It can't get any worse" it does. I think think that the Republicans know that they have screwed up big time and are determined to maintain their power by any means necesaary.

Please, it is time to send gift certificates to Clarence Thomas. KFC, Popeye's anything high in cholesterol or sodium will do.

To come to that conclusion you must think that State Legislatures are more prone to “cheating” than rogue individual State Judges. I think that would be hard to argue.

 

[F1fan]

So won't it be a paradox for the US supreme court to decide if a state's supreme court will have authority over the state or not? Think how this will affect whether the US supreme court will have authority over congress.

If the US SC says the state legislature has authority over the state's SC, then this will surely reflect on how congress can deal with whatever US SC ruling says.

This will be a crucial decision, as they all are, and again will define our future as a democracy or a fascist state.

 

[Shaul]

""the “independent state legislature” theory, which would give state legislatures the authority to set rules for federal elections even if those rules violated state constitutions or helped facilitate partisan gerrymandering. "".

Why would this even appeal to you? Like, what exactly is there to gain from this? Like at all?

One assumes the Constitution framers wanted to use the power of Federalism as a check against both centralized authority over the elections or direct majority authority over them. Whether one thinks is a good or bad thing depends on one’s point of view. One gain would be to check a simple majority from trampling rights of minorities, in particular small states.

 

[Shaul]

So won't it be a paradox for the US supreme court to decide if a state's supreme court will have authority over the state or not? Think how this will affect whether the US supreme court will have authority over congress.

If the US SC says the state legislature has authority over the state's SC, then this will surely reflect on how congress can deal with whatever US SC ruling says.

This will be a crucial decision, as they all are, and again will define our future as a democracy or a fascist state.

No, it would not. It is particular to election process. The US Supreme Court often rules on such nuances. Such a cases delineating between State power and individual rights. This would have no bearing on Supreme Court authority over Congress.

 

[F1fan]

If the 'Me Too' generation existed when Thomas was nominated, I don't think he would not have been confirmed.

Yet Kavenaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett got in, and they are anti-woman. It illustrates how little respect the right has for women even though there is more awareness of abuses against women, and more public support for the rights of women. The right is pushing back, and doing it through "legal", institutional ways. This means they can legislate and force what the right wants regardless of what the people want. As Republicans use more institutional cheating, like ignoring their state constitution, the state supreme courts, and the will of the people, they will get their way. The only alternation is a voting revolution, or something more drastic if that doesn't work.