USA "Martial Law" what happens?

[Brickjectivity]

...and our prisons are absurdly full of pot dealers...

True, plus we need, need, need to stop charging people for their own jailtime and incarcerating over failure to pay fines. That's crazy enslavement crap and in some cases cruel punishment. Failure to pay fines can be handled by the IRS, lawsuits and wage garnishment. Its easy, not hard to see that kind of thing is evidence that govt. can get out of hand and take over the lives of individuals.

 

[BSM1]

Question: By 'check the record' do you refer to news media reports covering well known events like the firing of Gen. Petraeus or is there a record of who is drummed out on whitehouse.gov or something like that?

Google the firing of upper level commanders over the last few years (Petraeus screwed up and I forgot about him). The latest was the commandant of the 7th Fleet out of Honolulu. This was over a questionable "porn" picture on his computer.which was enough to have him drummed out (he was also not an Obama cheer leader). Just sayin'...

 

[Brickjectivity]

Google the firing of upper level commanders over the last few years (Petraeus screwed up and I forgot about him). The latest was the commandant of the 7th Fleet out of Honolulu. This was over a questionable "porn" picture on his computer.which was enough to have him drummed out (he was also not an Obama cheer leader). Just sayin'...

Pres. Obama is in his 8th year, so if he is part of a plan to overthrow and declare martial law then its a party level plan, not an individual level plan; but facts don't support a party level plan for that. I don't think that is likely given the recent DNC email leaks. The DNC are opposed to B. Sanders but don't seem to be against our voting process. Obama did institute changes in the military, but I don't know the details of who was fired and who didn't want gays and transexuals etc. If there's real meat, then I expect to hear something about it from the renegade news leaders on youtube, BBC or reddit...or from someone here. I mean...even Al Jazeera doesn't say anything like that. Even Pravda hasn't suggested an overthrow occurring. It makes me question the value of doing all the work of checking all the news clippings and so forth to build a spreadsheet.

 

[Revoltingest]

Martial law.....I'd expect a lot of checkpoints & demands for papers.
I'd expect to have guns pointed at me more often.

 

[BSM1]

Pres. Obama is in his 8th year, so if he is part of a plan to overthrow and declare martial law then its a party level plan, not an individual level plan; but facts don't support a party level plan for that. I don't think that is likely given the recent DNC email leaks. The DNC are opposed to B. Sanders but don't seem to be against our voting process. Obama did institute changes in the military, but I don't know the details of who was fired and who didn't want gays and transexuals etc. If there's real meat, then I expect to hear something about it from the renegade news leaders on youtube, BBC or reddit...or from someone here. I mean...even Al Jazeera doesn't say anything like that. Even Pravda hasn't suggested an overthrow occurring. It makes me question the value of doing all the work of checking all the news clippings and so forth to build a spreadsheet.

My point is that it seems the military has been groomed to reflect those that may support the Commander-In-Chief in the event that martial law is declared.

 

[Brickjectivity]

My point is that it seems the military has been groomed to reflect those that may support the Commander-In-Chief in the event that martial law is declared.

Probably! One thing I noticed was how just before the beginning of his first term the president seemed to sharply change his mind about certain military objectives, such as closing Guantanamo. It seemed to me that somebody had told him 'No' in secret.

 

[metis]

The black helicopters with "OBAMA" written on the side are coming! Run!!!

 

[ShivaFan]

It is hot and it might be raining outside the giant Wells Fargo Bank where the DNC is holding its Democratic Convention, open for deposits.

So the best way to transition from A Future We Can Believe In to We Are With Hillary (the arrow points the way) is to give a deposit, right now.

Politicians have not failed you. And, soon, they will run your country like they run their email system. They are so smart, and soon they will put out the fire, do not fear. Everything is great. Control is coming, don’t worry. There is a six foot four mile wall around the big Wells Fargo Bank in Phily. All together now. Respect has been re-established.

Feel the burn?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Ok, so lets say hypothetically that a US president decided to make up an excuse and declare martial law over the USA and its territories. Say they had already been in power for several years, been popular and had been planning their takeover for a long time.

How would that go? Would the military cooperate? Would the police fall into line? Would the NSA and FBI go along with it?

Would US citizens cow down and hope for it to pass over, or would we overthrow the dictator?

You already had it. You're describing the Patriot Act.

 

[Brickjectivity]

You already had it. You're describing the Patriot Act.

I'm not fond of the Patriot Act either. Its a sanctimonious power grab.

 

[ShivaFan]

Some crazy nut or someone who isn't named David just ran a dump truck into the front gate of the Pittsburg, Pennsylvania, FBI building on the South Side, authorities said the driver of a dump truck intentionally crashed his vehicle through the front gate Tuesday morning. The large vehicle went airborne after impact of trying to crash the gate and then fell to rest in an employee parking lot outside the building on East Carson Street.

The Pittsburgh police had attempted to initiate a traffic stop due to his driving the vehicle which came from out of State Ohio, he refused to stop initially but then did stop when he got close to the FBI building. He then told the officer that he was intending to "ram the gate", put the huge truck in gear took off petal to the metal to the gate, almost smashing past it but went airborne and then crashed.

No motive yet or who the guy is or why he did this, the driver suffered injuries but has not been questioned yet. No other media coverage. But again, appadently his name is not David. Developing.

Hillary has not made any comments on the incident, there is no word from FBI Director Comey or whether he was in the building. Martial law has not been declared, all emails are currently secured.

 

[Sw. Vandana Jyothi]

I think Americans these days would be easier push-overs than most of us suspect. Maybe about half of them -- if not more -- would welcome it as a necessary or even desirable measure, especially if it were sold to them as something that must be done to make them safe from a terrorist attack. Americans have lost their love of liberty and replaced it with a fear for their security.

If you don't think that's so, just pay attention to how popular Trump has become through fear-mongering. Or to how popular Fox News has been for years now doing the same thing as Trump --- fear-mongering. A scared nation is an obedient nation.

IMO, very perceptive assessment, this post.

 

[Revoltingest]

Probably! One thing I noticed was how just before the beginning of his first term the president seemed to sharply change his mind about certain military objectives, such as closing Guantanamo. It seemed to me that somebody had told him 'No' in secret.

Or politicians show their true colors not on the campaign trail, but in office.

 

[Valjean]

My point is that it seems the military has been groomed to reflect those that may support the Commander-In-Chief in the event that martial law is declared.

Isn't that what the military is supposed to do? Aren't they trained to follower their commander's orders?

 

[BSM1]

Isn't that what the military is supposed to do? Aren't they trained to follower their commander's orders?

Lawful orders, as do all military personnel. However, a lawful order could be left up to translation depending on who gives it and who follows it.

 

[Underhill]

Probably! One thing I noticed was how just before the beginning of his first term the president seemed to sharply change his mind about certain military objectives, such as closing Guantanamo. It seemed to me that somebody had told him 'No' in secret.

This happens a lot in politics. A great idea during a speech is shot down when the guys 'in the room' give you a dose of reality.

 

[Brickjectivity]

This happens a lot in politics. A great idea during a speech is shot down when the guys 'in the room' give you a dose of reality.

It must have been like the moment when I realized the Stephen King novel, Salem's Lot was never truly about a plot or a storyline. It was always going to be about describing new characters, each one a piece of a giant pizza with a very thick crust and a tiny center. That tiny center was like what our new US president found out he was able to do in office.

 

[Underhill]

It must have been like the moment when I realized the Stephen King novel, Salem's Lot was never truly about a plot or a storyline. It was always going to be about describing new characters, each one a piece of a giant pizza with a very thick crust and a tiny center. That tiny center was like what our new US president found out he was able to do in office.

It had a plot, but the book would have been 6 pages long if it stuck to it.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

It had a plot, but the book would have been 6 pages long if it stuck to it.

If I'm not mistaken, that's true of ALL of King's works, isn't it?

 

[Underhill]

If I'm not mistaken, that's true of ALL of King's works, isn't it?

Most of his early stuff. His new books have gotten better.