USA provided Taliban with military equipment worth 85 billion dollar

[stvdv]

USA provided Taliban with military equipment worth 85 billion dollar

Note: Chauvinistic Americans better skip the first minute

IMO: This is quite a disaster for American in history. Poor Biden, not a nice way to end your career.

Obviously they tell Biden what to do and say, as he says himself (01:06). As I always say "Presidents are just puppets" (except some dictators maybe) and do as their advisers tell them. And understandably, because they can't possibly know all about everything.

So, IMO the Afghan mess is not Biden's fault. Watching the first minute shows to me, that he seems not very capable making such decisions. He was not the one deciding to leave Afghanistan

Seems to me that they made him a sort of the "fall guy" for Afghanistan failure. I've seen reports that show that they knew way in advance that Taliban got stronger (april 2021), but waited too long

If I, simple guy, can see that, then those ruling a Super Power like USA can see that too

Which seems to indicate to me, that they want Taliban to take over (giving away 85 billion dollar military equipment) OR Super Power America has become incompetent, and made a huge blunder. Those 2 options I see

What are your thoughts:
Did I miss something here (far away in Europe)?
Does Biden give the impression to be competent in your opinion (watching the first minute)?
Did USA not completely mess up in Afghanistan (disappear too quick leaving Afghans with more problems; 85 billion to be precise)

IMO they should have given the 85 million dollar military stuff to Afghan army, or do you think it's better in the hands of Taliban? Or did America run out in fear for Taliban Terrorists? All options seem disaster to me. Horror for Afghan people

America claims it taught Afghans to protect themselves. But giving Taliban 85 billion worth military equipment is like a death blow

Just some thoughts I got on this, while listening to this YouTube.

 

[Viker]

Biden didn't make this mess, he inherited it. Just as Trump and Obama before him.

 

[SomeRandom]

Got a better source than Sky News?
Also Biden wasn’t president for like 99% of the US occupation of Afghanistan. Not that I’m too fond of the guy but how is it his fault exactly?
We’ve been over there for like 20 years.

 

[Aštra’el]

What did you expect from from America’s current “Commander”-in-Chief?

 

[stvdv]

Biden didn't make this mess, he inherited it. Just as Trump and Obama before him.

Yes, that's also what I said "not his fault". And for sure a big mess. But the more interesting point is, that a Super Power seems to deliberately have made such a mess, or the Super Power is itself a mess. Both options are a lousy PR stunt for the USA (unless the world has fallen asleep due to corona)

Got a better source than Sky News?
Also Biden wasn’t president for like 99% of the US occupation of Afghanistan. Not that I’m too fond of the guy but how is it his fault exactly?
We’ve been over there for like 20 years.

Do you really believe the big mess the Super Power USA created (giving Taliban 85 billion military weapens etc) will get any better when reading it from another news source. I am sure it won't

You obviously did not read what I wrote (well) as I said "this is not Biden's fault)

 

[F1fan]

So the expectations of Biden being perfect and godlike in solving America's longest war in a nation that even Russia got its *** kicked in were unfounded?

 

[F1fan]

What did you expect from from America’s current “Commander”-in-Chief?

Much better than the previous one, and thank God he's not still in office or the **** show would be vastly worse.

 

[stvdv]

What did you expect from from America’s current “Commander”-in-Chief?

For sure not to solve this mess, but giving 85 billion worth of military to the Taliban is definitely not a 'happy ending'

 

[Viker]

or the Super Power is itself a mess

This is a fair assessment.

 

[stvdv]

This is a fair assessment.

Hard to believe, and those I should trust you say?

 

[SomeRandom]

Yes, that's also what I said "not his fault". And for sure a big mess. But the more interesting point is, that a Super Power seems to deliberately have made such a mess, or the Super Power is itself a mess. Both options are a lousy PR stunt for the USA (unless the world has fallen asleep due to corona)

America is such a super power they fled the moment the Taliban actually fought back. Granted I know this particular war is likely very unpopular right now. So I don’t necessarily blame them for using this as an easy out, if you like. But if they supposedly trained the Afghans to fight, how come they couldn’t hold off the Taliban is my question.
That they just up and left their supposed allies to the Taliban is likely going to haunt the US reputation in the eyes of the world. So I likely agree more than disagree with you.

Do you really believe the big mess the Super Power USA created (giving Taliban 85 billion military weapens etc) will get any better when reading it from another news source. I am sure it won't

Sky News is the Australian equivalent of Fox News. And I mean no offence when I say this, but both are as about as reputable as news sources as a tabloid. Full of hyperbole and politically motivated. So I would rather the facts come from a more respected source. Perhaps they inflated the number or they didn’t. I just want to make sure there is no spin on this is all.
Is that really a bad thing to ask?

You obviously did not read what I wrote (well) as I said "this is not Biden's fault)

Sorry it was early here when I responded. I blame my hangover and lack of caffeine.

 

[We Never Know]

Got a better source than Sky News?
Also Biden wasn’t president for like 99% of the US occupation of Afghanistan. Not that I’m too fond of the guy but how is it his fault exactly?
We’ve been over there for like 20 years.

"Also Biden wasn’t president for like 99% of the US occupation of Afghanistan"

That's true. But how someone ends something can sometimes be as bad or worse than the beginning.

 

[Viker]

Hard to believe, and those I should trust you say?

Personally, I believe the US needs to learn it's lessons finally and stop playing world super soldier/cop.

I can understand if others have a hard time trusting us. It's not an insult either.

 

[stvdv]

Sorry it was early here when I responded. I blame my hangover and lack of caffeine.

Good you said it though, now I highlighted it and a few other lines, so others won't miss it

 

[stvdv]

Personally, I believe the US needs to learn it's lessons finally and stop playing world super soldier/cop.

I can understand if others have a hard time trusting us. It's not an insult either.

It's not US, I don't trust, just those in charge (elite or whatever, who decide what, how and when to change things). Reason I don't trust "it's more about money and control, and less about Dharma". So not America specific, although they are quite big on this (Holland is trying hard to get there too though)

 

[SomeRandom]

"Also Biden wasn’t president for like 99% of the US occupation of Afghanistan"

That's true. But how someone ends something can sometimes be as bad or worse than the beginning.

True. I’m not sure what anyone expected the guy to do though. I mean he’s been in charge for like a few months, trying to deal with the pandemic and then they get rolled by the Taliban. In a (presumably) highly unpopular war to begin with. I don’t know what he could have done differently. But in saying that I’m not well versed in world politics so why would I??

 

[stvdv]

Sky News is the Australian equivalent of Fox News. And I mean no offence when I say this, but both are as about as reputable as news sources as a tabloid. Full of hyperbole and politically motivated. So I would rather the facts come from a more respected source. Perhaps they inflated the number or they didn’t. I just want to make sure there is no spin on this is all.

Sky News is really horrible sometimes (I saw Alan Jones if I remember correctly, bashing Biden non stop this month, and really in a bad way).

Is that really a bad thing to ask?

No, that's a good thing
This one just covered some parts I wanted to share (and were not different from other news I saw)

Circa 1 month ago, I saw Sky News for the first time, and really didn't like how Alan Jones bashed Biden. I thought about asking an Aussie about him, but I guess I know now that not all Aussies love him, right?

 

[SomeRandom]

Sky News is really horrible sometimes (I saw Alan Jones if I remember correctly, bashing Biden non stop this month, and really in a bad way).

Yeah I’m not really a fan of politically charged news, right or left. It’s a bit more prominent in the US but is still felt in my country I’m sure. To me journalism can spin a story to get you invested but should remain professional and impartial. I mean watch any BBC interview with an American political pundit and you will clearly see the difference both have on journalism as a whole. The US pundits just aren’t used to be scrutinised properly (regardless of political affiliation) and fold rather quickly. Not to say we don’t have our own political charged news obviously. I’m just saying. It’s always better to go to impartial and more trusted sources.

No, that's a good thing
This one just covered some parts I wanted to share (and were not different from other news I saw)

Fair enough.

Circa 1 month ago, I saw Sky News for the first time, and really didn't like how Alan Jones bashed Biden. I thought about asking an Aussie about him, but I guess I know now that not all Aussies love him, right?

Yeah Alan Jones is a right wing boomer. That’s just my opinion. He did coach Rugby Union for a while which is interesting. Since his field is sports and yet he is now a political pundit. Take that as you will. But me personally, I will admit that I watch political pundits that are not technically qualified online. I think most have some understanding of political theory though.
But I find the most useful ones are those who actually studied political theory. That’s just my opinion though

 

[stvdv]

Yeah Alan Jones is a right wing boomer. That’s just my opinion. He did coach Rugby Union for a while which is interesting. Since his field is sports and yet he is now a political pundit. Take that as you will. But me personally, I will admit that I watch political pundits that are not technically qualified online. I think most have some understanding of political theory though.
But I find the most useful ones are those who actually studied political theory. That’s just my opinion though

Thank you for some background info here.
Rugby is a rough sport, now I understand why he is more rough then Andrew Bolt I heard on Sky News, probably not a rugby coach before

 

[Revoltingest]

Biden didn't make this mess, he inherited it. Just as Trump and Obama before him.

This isn't fully accurate regarding Obama....
How Obama Came to Plan for ‘Surge’ in Afghanistan (Published 2009)

Nonetheless, both failed to withdraw from the war.
Only Biden "ripped the Band-Aid".