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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Would you consider judy hall to be a reliable source on crystals?

*chokes on her tea*

No. Her books are a perfect example of everything that's wrong with the New Age section.

. . .

Well, okay. Let me be fair. If you want inspiration, you can read whatever you want under the sun. If you want something that appears to be properly researched and referenced? Judy Hall's bestselling "Crystal Bible" has seven references, all of which are to other New Age books that are also poorly referenced and nearly half of which are to her own books. What does this mean? It's essentially a collection of hearsay. Yay? That this is a bestseller makes me facepalm really hard.

I almost went on a rant about this in one of my earlier posts in this thread, because the "quality" of correspondence books out there, especially on this topic, is frankly abysmal. I found that out very quickly when I was looking into them a few years back. The only one that I've run across with a respectable bio is Cunningham's book. Plus, in his text regarding the stones, he will actually state clearly where (or when) a particular piece of lore comes from some of the time.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
*chokes on her tea*

No. Her books are a perfect example of everything that's wrong with the New Age section.

. . .

Well, okay. Let me be fair. If you want inspiration, you can read whatever you want under the sun. If you want something that appears to be properly researched and referenced? Judy Hall's bestselling "Crystal Bible" has seven references, all of which are to other New Age books that are also poorly referenced and nearly half of which are to her own books. What does this mean? It's essentially a collection of hearsay. Yay? That this is a bestseller makes me facepalm really hard.

I almost went on a rant about this in one of my earlier posts in this thread, because the "quality" of correspondence books out there, especially on this topic, is frankly abysmal. I found that out very quickly when I was looking into them a few years back. The only one that I've run across with a respectable bio is Cunningham's book. Plus, in his text regarding the stones, he will actually state clearly where (or when) a particular piece of lore comes from some of the time.

Sorry about the tea lol.

Well that blows that idea out of the water lol since I was using her books as a base for my understanbing of particular stones.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
It's not wrong per se to use her as a base of understanding, I'd just recognize what it's grounded in. The trouble with a lot of these books is that we don't really know what they are grounded in, because it's not written in a way that makes that clear. What concerns me is certain things just get repeated over and over without fact checking to original sources, and you end up with corruption of lore.
 

dgirl1986

Big Queer Chesticles!
It's not wrong per se to use her as a base of understanding, I'd just recognize what it's grounded in. The trouble with a lot of these books is that we don't really know what they are grounded in, because it's not written in a way that makes that clear. What concerns me is certain things just get repeated over and over without fact checking to original sources, and you end up with corruption of lore.

I confess the only bit of lore that I know is the one relating to amethyst.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
I have never heard of orgone

quoting wikipedia:

"
Orgone energy is a hypothetical universal life force originally proposed in the 1930s by Wilhelm Reich.[1][2][3] In its final conception, developed by Reich's student Charles Kelly after Reich's death, Orgone was conceived as the anti-entropic principle of the universe, a creative substratum in all of nature comparable to Mesmer's animal magnetism, the Odic force of Carl Reichenbach and Henri Bergson's élan vital.[4] Orgone was seen as a massless, omnipresent substance, similar to luminiferous aether, but more closely associated with living energy than inert matter. It could coalesce to create organization on all scales, from the smallest microscopic units—called bions in orgone theory—to macroscopic structures like organisms, clouds, or even galaxies.[5]
Reich's theories held that deficits or constrictions in bodily orgone were at the root of many diseases—including cancer—much as deficits or constrictions in the libido could produce neuroses in Freudian theory. He created the Orgone Institute to pursue research into orgone energy after he immigrated to the US, and used it to publish literature and distribute material relating to the topic for more than a decade. Reich designed special "orgone accumulators"—devices ostensibly collecting and storing orgone energy from the environment—for improvement of general health or even for weather control.[1] Ultimately, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) obtained a federal injunction barring the interstate distribution of orgone-related materials, on the grounds that Reich and his associates were making false and misleading claims, and later jailed Reich and destroyed all orgone-related materials at the institute after Reich violated the injunction.[2] Contrary to common misconception, Reich always rejected the idea that the accumulator could provide orgastic potency.[6]
Orgone is regarded by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine as a type of "putative energy."[7] There is no empirical support for the concept of orgone in medicine or the physical sciences, and research into the concept ceased with the end of the Institute.[8]"


Does that help?:rolleyes:
 
folks interested in orgone should check these: (i cant link)

Orgonite Questions and Answers on David Icke's Official Forums


searching alchemy orgone on youtube (its a channel)
 
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