Various religious views on evolution

[YoursTrue]

So if you're a Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, or of another religious belief, what does your religion teach about evolution.

 

[Viker]

Nothing. It advocates education, scientific inquiry and the pursuit of knowledge. Not having dogma concerning the origin of man, it's going to side with contemporary science relating to evolution.

 

[sayak83]

So if you're a Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Hindu, Muslim, or of another religious belief, what does your religion teach about evolution.

Nothing for Hinduism. The current scientific theory is consistent with Hinduism.

 

[YoursTrue]

Nothing. It advocates education, scientific inquiry and the pursuit of knowledge. Not having dogma concerning the origin of man, it's going to side with contemporary science relating to evolution.

Since your religion is stated as "In Diabolica," what religion does that mean?

 

[YoursTrue]

Nothing for Hinduism. The current scientific theory is consistent with Hinduism.

What's a pluralist Hindu? So Hinduism teaches that evolution is the way humans and other lifeforms came about? Just wondering...Is there a set teaching in Hindu beliefs about this?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Hinduism finishes that in two words - "Eko'ham Bahusyami" (I am one, I will be many). This is the Vaishnava version, and the most popular one.
Then it goes on to describe Lord Brahma creating four sages (Sanat Kumaras) who refuse to participate in procreation, then Sage Narada, who too refuses procreation.
Then in this eon (Manvantara), Brahma creates Daksha. Beyond this the descriptions vary, about the number of his wives or the number of his children (all daughters). Daksha's daughters were married to Gods and various primordial sages. Humans as also the animals are the progeny of Daksha's daughters.

 

[Aštra’el]

It’s all real.

While the theory of evolution might be incompatible with select perspectives on creation… the more humanity progresses in the creation of our own digital worlds with videogames, and the more our own technology evolves, the more I am seeing humanity begin to do the very thing we long theorized only God(s) could do. And this is only the beginning. With every new generation, the less impossible it seems… and if we could do it, than any civilization far older and far more advanced than us could do it.

Look how far we have come, since the NES. It hasn’t even been a hundred years. Now imagine two hundred. A thousand. One hundred thousand.

1,000,000.

What can we achieve in that time?

For humanity, it began as simple “games”, primarily for children… but those children have grown, and have realized what we are moving towards is alternate reality- the creation of our own genuine universes. We develop our own personalized incarnations to enter and explore and conquer imagined worlds, experiencing death and resurrection, lives and afterlives, reincarnation… so many things mentioned in the holy books of old. Anything that we can imagine, we can create, digitally. Every religious concept, every motif, every afterlife, everything is possible when we combine our imaginations with technology. We are proving that. All we require is time… and our worlds will keep getting more and more realistic.

It makes me wonder if we all exist in a seemingly endless chain of created universes- randomly generated or not- as if it is something all intelligent life eventually does, given enough time. I almost hesitate to call them “simulations”, because that would imply they are somehow “fake”, or not genuine.

I see it as anything but.

At what point does a simulated realty… become another reality?

Yes. I believe in evolution. I also believe our universe was created. Not just because of what ancient men might have seen, imagined or theorized about, or what epic stories I’ve read in their amazing holy books (which definitely got the gears turning)… but also because of what I’ve seen in front of me, as I’ve experienced the evolution of videogames for myself… and because of what I see ahead of us, within the realm of possibility.

Evolution… proving creation. What beautiful irony. Open your eyes, like me, and see… it doesn’t have to be either/ or.

 

[YoursTrue]

Hinduism finishes that in two words - "Eko'ham Bahusyami" (I am one, I will be many). This is the Vaishnava version.,
Then it goes on to describe Lord Brahma creating four sages (Sanat Kumaras) who refuse to participate in procreation, then Sage Narada, who too refuses procreation.
Then in this eon (Manvantara), Brahma creates Daksha. Beyond this the descriptions vary, about the number of his wives or the number of his children (all daughters). Daksha's daughters were married to Gods and various primordial sages. Humans as also the animals are the progeny of Daksha's daughters.

And do you believe that?

 

[sayak83]

What's a pluralist Hindu? So Hinduism teaches that evolution is the way humans and other lifeforms came about? Just wondering...Is there a set teaching in Hindu beliefs about this?

Hinduism says nothing about evolution per se.
What I meant was that the scientific theory of evolution is consistent with the basic ideas within Hinduism where the creative forces within Nature (Prakriti) gradually actualize a diversified universe replete with many different types of living and non living things.
Pluralism. See below.
What Is Pluralism? Definition and Examples

 

[YoursTrue]

It’s all real.

While the theory of evolution might be incompatible with select perspectives on creation… the more humanity progresses in the creation of our own digital worlds with videogames, and the more our own technology evolves, the more I am seeing humanity begin to do the very thing we long theorized only God(s) could do. And this is only the beginning. With every new generation, the less impossible it seems… and if we could do it, than any civilization far older and far more advanced than us could do it.

Look how far we have come, since the NES. It hasn’t even been a hundred years. Now imagine two hundred. A thousand. One hundred thousand.

1,000,000.

What can we achieve in that time?

For humanity, it began as simple “games”, primarily for children… but those children have grown, and have realized what we are moving towards is alternate reality- the creation of our own genuine universes. We develop our own personalized incarnations to enter and explore and conquer imagined worlds, experiencing death and resurrection, lives and afterlives, reincarnation… so many things mentioned in the holy books of old. Anything that we can imagine, we can create, digitally. Every religious concept, every motif, every afterlife, everything is possible when we combine our imaginations with technology. We are proving that. All we require is time… and our worlds will keep getting more and more realistic.

It makes me wonder if we all exist in a seemingly endless chain of created universes- randomly generated or not- as if it is something all intelligent life eventually does, given enough time. I almost hesitate to call them “simulations”, because that would imply they are somehow “fake”, or not genuine. I see it as anything but.

At what point does a simulated realty… become another reality?

Yes. I believe in evolution. I also believe our universe was created. Not so much because of what ancient men said, or what epic stories I’ve read in their amazing holy books… but mostly because of what I’ve seen in front of me, as I’ve experienced the evolution of videogames for myself… because of what I see ahead of us, within the realm of possibility.

Evolution… proving creation. What beautiful irony. Open your eyes, like me, and see… it doesn’t have to be either/ or.

My reaction -- and I won't get into much of it now because it's kind of like a 'no debate' forum, so you believe whatever your spirit takes you to believe, whether it's evolution mixed with reincarnation or video games that "evolve" quickly. OK, thanks.

 

[YoursTrue]

Hinduism says nothing about evolution per se.
What I meant was that the scientific theory of evolution is consistent with the basic ideas within Hinduism where the creative forces within Nature (Prakriti) gradually actualize a diversified universe replete with many different types of living and non living things.
Pluralism. See below.
What Is Pluralism? Definition and Examples

OK. Thanks for response.

 

[Aupmanyav]

And do you believe that?

Me, believing these children's stories. No way. I am a strong atheist Advaitist Hindu.

What's a pluralist Hindu? .. Is there a set teaching in Hindu beliefs about this?

No, there is no set teaching. Pluralist Hindus have pluralist mythology about advent of humans.
And as an atheist Hindu, I enjoy all those mythological descriptions but go by science. Hinduism does not force me to accept the mythological stories.

 

[YoursTrue]

Hinduism says nothing about evolution per se.
What I meant was that the scientific theory of evolution is consistent with the basic ideas within Hinduism where the creative forces within Nature (Prakriti) gradually actualize a diversified universe replete with many different types of living and non living things.
Pluralism. See below.
What Is Pluralism? Definition and Examples

Just going back to Pluralism for a minute, anything and everything is ok, even if it disagrees with another religious concept, as long as ... ??

 

[YoursTrue]

Me, beleiving these children's stories. No way. I am a strong atheist Advaitist Hindu.
No, there is no set teaching. Pluralist Hindus have pluralist mythology about advent of humans.
And as an atheist Hindu, I enjoy all those mythological descriptions but go by science. Hinduism does not force me to accept the mythological stories.

Not that I understand what an atheist Hindu is, but anyway --

 

[Secret Chief]

I'm not aware that the Buddha addressed evolution.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Not that I understand what an atheist Hindu is, but anyway --

Atheist Hindu is one who goes by 'Dharma' (Duties), but does not accept the existence of any God or Goddess, soul, heaven, hell, rebirth, etc.

 

[YoursTrue]

Atheist Hindu is one who goes by 'Dharma", but does not accept the existence of any God or Goddess, soul, heaven, hell, rebirth, etc.

So if I understand, I looked up Dharma, and see wikipedia says: ..."Although there is no direct single-word translation for dharma in European languages, it is commonly translated as "righteousness", "merit" or "religious and moral duties" governing individual conduct."
And so, even though you don't believe in a God, or I suppose, gods, you believe in righteousness, is that right?

 

[Aštra’el]

My reaction -- and I won't get into much of it now because it's kind of like a 'no debate' forum, so you believe whatever your spirit takes you to believe, whether it's evolution mixed with reincarnation or video games that "evolve" quickly. OK, thanks.

I’ve simply pointed out that, in a very short time, humans- in creating our own worlds- are beginning to achieve what was once believed only God(s) could do, which for me, strengthens my own belief in God(s). In this massive universe- or multiverse- I doubt we are the only ones- or the first ones- to create our own worlds. I attempt to imagine what kinds of worlds a hyper advanced civilization- or being(s)- with millions or billions of years experience would be capable of constructing.

 

[YoursTrue]

I’ve simply pointed out that, in a very short time, humans- in creating our own worlds- are beginning to achieve what was once believed only God(s) could do, which for me strengthens my own belief in God(s). In this massive universe- or multiverse- I doubt we are the only ones- or the first ones- to create our own worlds. I attempt to imagine what kind of worlds a hyper advanced civilization- or being(s)- with millions or billions of years experience would be capable of constructing.

While I thank you for your answer, the quick development of things such as writing, languages, and electricity convinces me that the idea that humankind from Adam and Eve makes perfect, logical sense. I'm speaking specifically of mankind, not other types of life now.

 

[Clara Tea]

Nothing. It advocates education, scientific inquiry and the pursuit of knowledge. Not having dogma concerning the origin of man, it's going to side with contemporary science relating to evolution.

Magma the origin of dogs?