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Vengeance is mine
- Thread starter Chisti
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Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
its certainly a reminder of why we are told not to take vengeance on our enemies and why we are not to repay those who make tribulation for us.
God will bring all of us into judgement and its comforting to know that the wicked will not be permitted to commit their wicked works indefinitely....all will be called to account in Gods due time.
arthra
Baha'i
My grandfather had a fairly sizeable business some fifty years ago .. My grandfather used to say "Vengeance is Mine saith the Lord" and read his BIble daily in the early mrning hours before he fed his chickens ... anyway after his death it was discovered that his trusted secretary and a few others had been setting aside some assets that didn't belong to them.. well not long after that they all met with a variety of misfortunes...The secretary succumbed to pneumonia. Her husband a former policeman was convicted of rape and so on...
It's not really a comfort to me but it does reinforce the concept that what goes around comes around and that as ye sow so shall ye reap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5FORmcZBX4&feature=related
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I agree with the two previous posts.
I do not take that verse as a way to satisfy and promote a desire for revenge. I take that verse as a way of releasing the desire for revenge when it arises -- with a sense of assurance that fairness and balance will eventually be in place regarding that issue -- in the time and manner most appropriate.
I do not take that verse as a way to satisfy and promote a desire for revenge. I take that verse as a way of releasing the desire for revenge when it arises -- with a sense of assurance that fairness and balance will eventually be in place regarding that issue -- in the time and manner most appropriate.
mohamad Gamal
Member
hi a part of me feels really comforted to hear those words because it assures me that god will have his vengeance on those who didn't believe in him nor follow his messages and shall let the ones who praised him go to heaven while the other part trembles in fear of god asking for his forgiveness for any sins i have made and asking him to make me from the one who goes to heaven
and proves how god is glorious and powerful against the one's who don't believe in him and praise him and i want to thank you all for this great topic
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Even as a non believing Jew I get a slight arousal from these words.
Chisti
Active Member
Darkness
Psychoanalyst/Marxist
I tend to adhere to a Girardian interpretation of the Cross, in that Jesus transcends the law of lex talionis. John Caputo, the deconstructionist philosopher-theologian, writes:
On the classical account of strong theology, Jesus was just holding back his divine power in order to let his human nature suffer. He freely chose to check his power because the Father had a plan to redeem the world with his blood. ... That is not the weakness of God that I am here defending. God, the event harbored by the name of God, is present at the crucifixion, as the power of the powerlessness of Jesus, in and as the protest against the injustice that rises up from the cross, in and as the words of forgiveness, not a deferred power that will be visited upon ones enemies at a later time. God is in attendance as the weak force of the call that cries out from Calvary and calls across the epochs, that cries out from every corpse created by every cruel and unjust power. The logos of the cross is a call to renounce violence, not to conceal and defer it and then, in a stunning act that takes the enemy by surprise, to lay them low with real power, which shows the enemy who really has the power. That is just what Nietzsche was criticizing under the name of ressentiment.
On the classical account of strong theology, Jesus was just holding back his divine power in order to let his human nature suffer. He freely chose to check his power because the Father had a plan to redeem the world with his blood. ... That is not the weakness of God that I am here defending. God, the event harbored by the name of God, is present at the crucifixion, as the power of the powerlessness of Jesus, in and as the protest against the injustice that rises up from the cross, in and as the words of forgiveness, not a deferred power that will be visited upon ones enemies at a later time. God is in attendance as the weak force of the call that cries out from Calvary and calls across the epochs, that cries out from every corpse created by every cruel and unjust power. The logos of the cross is a call to renounce violence, not to conceal and defer it and then, in a stunning act that takes the enemy by surprise, to lay them low with real power, which shows the enemy who really has the power. That is just what Nietzsche was criticizing under the name of ressentiment.
I take comfort in it in the fact that I know God has perfect justice- that any kind of revenge from me is not appropriate. I don't get comfort for anyone suffering in any way.
Chisti
Active Member
Don't you enjoy seeing bad people suffer?