Thief
Rogue Theologian
and I hear it's all theory....Once you remove the fallacies, misrepresentations, and misunderstandings of quantum stuff you aren't left with much to use.
nothing to use in this world
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and I hear it's all theory....Once you remove the fallacies, misrepresentations, and misunderstandings of quantum stuff you aren't left with much to use.
Can you support this claim that "all motion we have seen so far indicates a point of origin"?all of the motion we have seen so far......indicates a 'point' of origin
That's not a good way to introduce science into the discussion.and I hear it's all theory....
nothing to use in this world
if only we could get past the simple cause and effect partThat's not a good way to introduce science into the discussion.
the universe is expandingCan you support this claim that "all motion we have seen so far indicates a point of origin"?
That quantum stuff is showing effect does not necessarily need cause.if only we could get past the simple cause and effect part
as such you can never associate any effect with any causeThat quantum stuff is showing effect does not necessarily need cause.
Very much so we can. Electricity easily proves we can see cause and effect, and know different values with things like Ohm's law. You flip a switch and close the circuit, it functions as electricity passes through. But quantum mechanics is showing us things never understood or realized before, such as that cause/effect is not entirely necessary.as such you can never associate any effect with any cause
let's not flip-flopVery much so we can. Electricity easily proves we can see cause and effect, and know different values with things like Ohm's law. You flip a switch and close the circuit, it functions as electricity passes through. But quantum mechanics is showing us things never understood or realized before, such as that cause/effect is not entirely necessary.
Expansion like that of the universe more likely indicates an explosion. No one could possibly know if this was the "first" such expansion/explosion ever enacted. And I believe it would be naive to simply assume so.the universe is expanding
expansion indicates a starting point
I'm not flip-flopping. Quantum mechanics has taken much of what we thought we knew and turned it upside down and inside out. It doesn't change the fact the area of a square will still always be base x height, or that DNA is the building block of life, but it has strongly challenged a number of previously established ideas, such as Relativity which isn't neatly fitting with QM.let's not flip-flop
if you insist on action without a cause.......
you have no science
yeah....Albert knew about itI'm not flip-flopping. Quantum mechanics has taken much of what we thought we knew and turned it upside down and inside out. It doesn't change the fact the area of a square will still always be base x height, or that DNA is the building block of life, but it has strongly challenged a number of previously established ideas, such as Relativity which isn't neatly fitting with QM.
We can actually say much with certainty and know for fact, 100% of the time, what is and what will work and what is not and will not work. For certain, 9V batteries are crap - this is based on their design and theories behind electricity. For certain, the Earth revolves around the sun due to the known laws of physics regarding gravity. For certain, QM is challenging and defying many previously held ideas, such as conservation of energy.you cannot say with certainty....whatever you think you know
Isn't that the point. We can't say many of the things we thought were true in regards to physical laws with certainty. Quantum mechanics have turned some of those things on their head.yeah....Albert knew about it
I say the numbers have led people to believe in a line of thought that cannot be supported
if you cannot show the effect as a result of a cause.....
you cannot say with certainty....whatever you think you know
so...stepping to what we know for sure.....We can actually say much with certainty and know for fact, 100% of the time, what is and what will work and what is not and will not work. For certain, 9V batteries are crap - this is based on their design and theories behind electricity. For certain, the Earth revolves around the sun due to the known laws of physics regarding gravity. For certain, QM is challenging and defying many previously held ideas, such as conservation of energy.
Again, the same meaningless dribbles.so...stepping to what we know for sure.....
Someone had to be First.....in mind and heart
substance still needs a push to move
Spirit first
again...the shallow reortAgain, the same meaningless dribbles.