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Verifiable evidence for creationism?

Is there any verifiable evidence for creationism?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 19.0%
  • No

    Votes: 85 81.0%

  • Total voters
    105

Thief

Rogue Theologian
That quantum stuff is showing effect does not necessarily need cause.
as such you can never associate any effect with any cause

no photos no fingerprints no equations and no repeatable experiments

without association......it is chaos
without a cause
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
as such you can never associate any effect with any cause
Very much so we can. Electricity easily proves we can see cause and effect, and know different values with things like Ohm's law. You flip a switch and close the circuit, it functions as electricity passes through. But quantum mechanics is showing us things never understood or realized before, such as that cause/effect is not entirely necessary.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Very much so we can. Electricity easily proves we can see cause and effect, and know different values with things like Ohm's law. You flip a switch and close the circuit, it functions as electricity passes through. But quantum mechanics is showing us things never understood or realized before, such as that cause/effect is not entirely necessary.
let's not flip-flop

if you insist on action without a cause.......
you have no science
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
let's not flip-flop

if you insist on action without a cause.......
you have no science
I'm not flip-flopping. Quantum mechanics has taken much of what we thought we knew and turned it upside down and inside out. It doesn't change the fact the area of a square will still always be base x height, or that DNA is the building block of life, but it has strongly challenged a number of previously established ideas, such as Relativity which isn't neatly fitting with QM.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I'm not flip-flopping. Quantum mechanics has taken much of what we thought we knew and turned it upside down and inside out. It doesn't change the fact the area of a square will still always be base x height, or that DNA is the building block of life, but it has strongly challenged a number of previously established ideas, such as Relativity which isn't neatly fitting with QM.
yeah....Albert knew about it

I say the numbers have led people to believe in a line of thought that cannot be supported
if you cannot show the effect as a result of a cause.....
you cannot say with certainty....whatever you think you know
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
you cannot say with certainty....whatever you think you know
We can actually say much with certainty and know for fact, 100% of the time, what is and what will work and what is not and will not work. For certain, 9V batteries are crap - this is based on their design and theories behind electricity. For certain, the Earth revolves around the sun due to the known laws of physics regarding gravity. For certain, QM is challenging and defying many previously held ideas, such as conservation of energy.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
yeah....Albert knew about it

I say the numbers have led people to believe in a line of thought that cannot be supported
if you cannot show the effect as a result of a cause.....
you cannot say with certainty....whatever you think you know
Isn't that the point. We can't say many of the things we thought were true in regards to physical laws with certainty. Quantum mechanics have turned some of those things on their head.

M-theory seems to be the best bet currently, as it fits the most "neatly" with everything we see in the universe.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
We can actually say much with certainty and know for fact, 100% of the time, what is and what will work and what is not and will not work. For certain, 9V batteries are crap - this is based on their design and theories behind electricity. For certain, the Earth revolves around the sun due to the known laws of physics regarding gravity. For certain, QM is challenging and defying many previously held ideas, such as conservation of energy.
so...stepping to what we know for sure.....

Someone had to be First.....in mind and heart

substance still needs a push to move

Spirit first
 
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