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Video on why Russia is invading the Ukraine?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'd forgotten about Russia having invaded Georgia too.
The list grows.

The video reinforces my view that the wars in Afghanistan
& Iraq weakened Ameristan. We should pay attention to
defense...not military adventurism / nation building.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
He's putting the old band back together. Like Dwight Yokum in that movie 'Sling Blade'. He was a nasty character, too.
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member

Worth watching it all (32 min). Any comments on this?

I can't help but see the irony that a critical goal of the invasion is to monopolize the oil and natural gas energy reserves of Ukraine and yet, as a consequence of the invasion, no one will buy energy from Russia.
Also ironic that if the goal is to make Russia secure from invasion, yet Russia is starting World War III.
Further ironic that if the goal is to restore the glory of a past Russian empire, yet the world now sees Russia as a pariah.

In other news, for the first time in history Finland is seriously considering joining NATO. And a significant part of the reason for that may be because of Putin's warning to Sweden and Finland not to join NATO (Russia has unsuccessfully attempted to invade Finland before).
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I can't help but see the irony that a critical goal of the invasion is to monopolize the oil and natural gas energy reserves of Ukraine and yet, as a consequence of the invasion, no one will buy energy from Russia.
Also ironic that if the goal is to make Russia secure from invasion, yet Russia is starting World War III.
Further ironic that if the goal is to restore the glory of a past Russian empire, yet the world now sees Russia as a pariah.

In other news, for the first time in history Finland is seriously considering joining NATO. And a significant part of the reason for that may be because of Putin's warning to Sweden and Finland not to join NATO (Russia has unsuccessfully attempted to invade Finland before).
Yeah, it's rather odd that everything that Putin and Russia are doing with this tends towards achieving the opposite too. Perhaps he just looks long-term, as in a hundred years or so - at best. :oops:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can't help but see the irony that a critical goal of the invasion is to monopolize the oil and natural gas energy reserves of Ukraine and yet, as a consequence of the invasion, no one will buy energy from Russia.
Also ironic that if the goal is to make Russia secure from invasion, yet Russia is starting World War III.
Further ironic that if the goal is to restore the glory of a past Russian empire, yet the world now sees Russia as a pariah.

In other news, for the first time in history Finland is seriously considering joining NATO. And a significant part of the reason for that may be because of Putin's warning to Sweden and Finland not to join NATO (Russia has unsuccessfully attempted to invade Finland before).
The problem of unintended consequences, eh.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The video made an interesting point about the water problem in Crimea.

So, the focus of the video seems to be that it's a fight over oil and natural gas. That would make sense.
There is some logic in it, and I wasn't aware of the water issue. Still can't understand the mentality of any Russian who considers one has to have buffer states in the 21st century, unless one was so against capitalism and democracy or so paranoid. And all the excuses just can't stack up against destroying a country and killing so many - just in case. Of course none of this is mentioned by Putin but rather he invents convenient pretexts for home consumption.
 
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