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Views of the other side in the abortion debate

In general,

  • I identify as pro-choice. I think "pro-lifers" are doing what they consider to be good.

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • I identify as pro-choice. I'm not sure of "pro-lifers'" motives.

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • I identify as pro-choice. I think "pro-lifers" are doing what they know to be wrong.

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • I identify as pro-life. I think pro-choicers are doing what they consider to be good.

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • I identify as pro-life. I'm not sure of pro-choicers' motives.

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • I identify as pro-life. I think pro-choicers are doing what they know to be wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    22

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I went with number two. The latest actions of the antichoice people regarding the pregnant 10 year old tells us that at least most of them know that it was wrong to make that illegal for that little girl. We can see by the endless deflection and attempts to shift the blame that occurred and no apologies when the false claims of the anti abortion crowd were all shown to be wrong. That clearly looks like guilt to me. But I am not sure that all of them feel guilt for such a situation. They should. And if they would only own up to their guilty there could be hope for a rational discussion.
That disgusted me beyond all belief.
I thought there was humanity to be found in the American pro life movement.
I found a little bit. Those who expressed concern for the girl, I commend as possessing some values and sticking to their principles.
Everyone else though?
For shame
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
After studying the options medical law gave women.

That medical always tried to save the life of a woman over the baby already.

And abuse of any system is human behaviour.

I'm pro life. But mind my own one self business.

Medical was given a law bound to its legality only. If it's medical determined.

Now I've seen a not wanted not loved baby life emerge with mental conditions invitro. Causing social problems.

Read a medical paper that had studied its cause. Being loved in pregnancy plus nourished is vital. Lots of cases of pregnancy does not support baby health.

Social issues as relationships are involved as personal. Not yours.

Women are taught their life purpose is to have sex with men.

Yet men owned the teaching.
You also don't own the responsibility of body change. As men.

Gods law nature owned a sealed human womb. So I can argue you men broke gods law yourselves.

Environmental science causes now own missed conception and unnatural abortions.

Huge monetary benefits from IVF. What about unwanted babies some now children to teen-agers?

IVF gave unnatural cell cloning all experimental support. Doing things to babies you don't even think about.

Therefore if humanity says all problems caused by unnatural life pairing was a long time ago. A bit late to be complaining now.

All life is about pro life. Not just babies.

The social issues are a double sided review as society is meant to support all circumstances of an individual first.

Not owning the circumstance myself I don't judge others. Even though I'm pro life.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
A debate about abortion 2 years prior to the abortion law, in my country


She basically says: This has nothing to do with politics. This has nothing to do with men. This has to do with women exclusively. It is women who risk their own life through pregnancy and delivery whereas men don't. So it is women's choice exclusively. The choice to deliver a baby, the choice to risk their own live through a at-risk pregnancy, the choice to have an abortion, the choice to risk their own life through abortion.
I am so shocked by this contradiction: men being for war and countering abortion. War is just a 20 year belated infanticide, because we send our own young men to die. I have been to Vietnam and I have seen enough.
If I get pregnant, I will keep the baby. But I am not doing this for me, but to give women the right to choose.
 
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