Violence and Religion

[Rex]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

 

[catch22]

Did you see the thing with the cops in NYC recently?

Why are violence and race so entangled?

 

[metis]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. Actually most wars are fought over the control of resources.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

Perhaps a better question would be, why is any ideology or worldview so entangled with violence? Patriotism, communism, etc.

On a deeper level, why is our human nature so entangled with violence?

 

[Wu Wei]

The common factor in all these is people..... people are entangled with violence wherever you fid them

 

[Sunstone]

The common factor in all these is people..... people are entangled with violence wherever you fid them

While violence is a universal human problem, those who adhere to some ideologies seem more inclined to violence than those who adhere to some other ideologies.

 

[Sunstone]

Perhaps a better question would be, why is any ideology or worldview so entangled with violence? Patriotism, communism, etc.

On a deeper level, why is our human nature so entangled with violence?

Precisely -- on both points. Human nature is seemingly contradictory. We can be quite peace loving at times, and quite violent at other times.

 

[Wu Wei]

While violence is a universal human problem, those who adhere to some ideologies seem more inclined to violence than those who adhere to some other ideologies.

Could be, or it could be the media reports some more than others....sensationalism pays you know.

 

[Sunstone]

Could be, or it could be the media reports some more than others....sensationalism pays you know.

So do you think it's just "the media reports it more" that Muslims as a group appear to be more disposed to violence than Tibetan Buddhists as a group?

Please don't misunderstand me. I agree with you that the media tends to report the violent acts of certain groups more than the violent acts of some other groups, but I also think there may be real differences in levels of violence between people of different ideologies.

 

[England my lionheart]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

Because they are both practised by Humans,unfortunately one is a reality.

 

[Wu Wei]

So you think it's just "the media reports it more" that Muslims as a group appear to be more disposed to violence than Tibetan Buddhists as a group?

No I don't, but I do think that we get a skewed vision of "Muslim groups" from the media and not all Muslim Groups are the same and most are not terrorists or extremists.

But I still fully believe that religions, by themselves, be they Christian, Buddhist or Islam are not violent. However when people begin to interpret them or use them for their own purposes and agenda...then the violence begins

 

[Sunstone]

No I don't, but I do think that we get a skewed vision of "Muslim groups" from the media and not all Muslim Groups are the same and most are not terrorists or extremists.

But I still fully believe that religions, by themselves, be they Christian, Buddhist or Islam are not violent. However when people begin to interpret them or use them for their own purposes and agenda...then the violence begins

Some ideologies seem to lend themselves to violent expression more than others, in my opinion.

 

[oldbadger]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

Hi.....
Last night I watched a US 'Most Violent Police Videos' program where a maniac anti-gov Father/Son team deliberately got stopped by a police patrol so that they could kill the cops with AK47's, all filmed from the cop-car's on-board camera.

It's not always religion.......?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

While violence is a universal human problem, those who adhere to some ideologies seem more inclined to violence than those who adhere to some other ideologies.

I think the Abrahamic religions have got a lot to answer for.

 

[Wu Wei]

Some ideologies seem to lend themselves to violent expression more than others, in my opinion.

Can't argue with that, could be

I think the Abrahamic religions have got a lot to answer for.

yup, we could possibly start with the year 1096, most definitely 1478.... heck the entire "exploration" and colonization of North and South America..... but you are right...there is a lot there that many tend to be forgotten (sometimes conveniently) or ignored

 

[Nakosis]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

Perhaps in the case where religion demands certain truths be accepted. You have a truth, you have a cause, you have a purpose. People see other folks threatening that truth.

I believe certain things but have a willingness to accept other beliefs might be true and to be convinced my beliefs are incorrect. I don't feel threatened when my beliefs are questioned.

A religion demanding acceptance of a truth, you kind of have to give yourself over to that truth. That "truth" become part of who you are, part of your identity. If you threaten their beliefs you are personally threatening them.

The teaching of tolerance is not really part of some beliefs. It is just sometimes added on by more conscientiousness folks.

 

[illykitty]

While I do think certain religions make violence a bit easier to justify (compared to a religion that teaches ahimsa/non-violence), there's too many reasons deranged people could use as an excuse to commit atrocious acts. Almost anything can be entangled with violence and death.

And although today things look bleak, I keep hoping that humans will get better... Just as how today is better than 500 years ago.

 

[outhouse]

After this latest news in Paris I have to again ask myself why is violence and religion so entangled?

Because of the different levels of required fanaticism and fundamentalism different religions possess.

Obviously some require more then others.

If one has already climbed up 5 rungs of a ladder away from reality, it is easy to take one more step up into terrorism and violence.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Just as how today is better than 500 years ago.

In a way, but looking back at the last century one of our main "accomplishments" has been developing the technology to kill on an industrial scale.

 

[columbus]

Hi.....
Last night I watched a US 'Most Violent Police Videos' program where a maniac anti-gov Father/Son team deliberately got stopped by a police patrol so that they could kill the cops with AK47's, all filmed from the cop-car's on-board camera.

It's not always religion.......?

Did anyone ask about their religious affiliation?

Here in the USA it would be bad for ratings to bill them as "Christian Cop Killers", but if they were Muslims you can bet that would play.

Tom