Please help me understand the following passage from the Quran, do you find it violent, if so then why is Islam considered a religion of peace when there are many more like in the Quran?
"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
- Quran (2:191-193)
Let's not try to sugar coat things. Let's tell it like it is. And let's not talk religions per se, let's talk scriptures. Yes Quran does allow violence BUT ONLY when you are defending yourself, not being allowed to practice Islam or being kicked out of your homes. I love how everyone loves to quote "Kill them where you find them" but they neglect to quote the verses which state the conditions under which this is justified. Let's have an honest look at this situation...
[2:193] Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.
If they don't fight back, you can't continue fighting. But under what conditions is this violence permissible? Let's look at another important piece of truth...
[4:89] They hope that you would reject as they rejected, then you would be the same. Do not take any of them as allies until they emigrate in the cause of God. If they turn away, then take them and KILL THEM WHERE YOU FIND THEM; and do not take from them any ally or supporter;
Oh how the Anti-Islam deceivers and Extremist Muslims love to quote this verse. Except they forget to read the VERY NEXT VERSE. They're both equally ignorant...
[4:90] Except for those who join a people between whom you have a covenant, or those who come to you with reluctance in their chests to fight you or to fight their own people. Had God willed He would have given them strength and they would have fought you. But if they retire from you, and did not fight you, and they offer you peace; then God does not make for you a way against them.
Hmm... It seems like God is saying you can only fight in cases of self defense. But wait, not convinced what the requirements are to use physical force? Let me quote a verse that no one wants to acknowledge (yet it's right there in Quran)...
[60:8] God does not forbid you from those who have not fought you because of your faith, nor drove you out of your homes, that you deal kindly and equitably with them. For God loves the equitable.
What??? Muslims are only allowed to fight when defending themselves, being kicked out of their homes or not being allowed to practice their faith? So Quran doesn't allow for violence against "infidels" just for sport? In fact, Muslims must actually be equitable towards non believers who are doing them no harm? Sorry Anti-Islam deceivers, you have been exposed. Read the entire Quran. Understand the context and then make accusations. Quran promotes peace towards all but does command us to defend ourselves if being oppressed. That's not violence. It's justice.
Let's see how peaceful the Bible is...
Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
Exodus 32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
Deutronomy 13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Deutronomy 21:10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
Deu:21:11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Deu:21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
Oh cool. So not only violence but you get to have slaves and keep the beautiful women & force them to shave their heads. Yeah, this is peaceful enough.
Bible says kill your children too if they're naughty...
Deutronomy 21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Deu:21:19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
Deu:21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
Deu:21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, THAT HE DIE: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Jeremiah 48:10 Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
