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Wahabism

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
If oyou dont know what they cqll themselves then I advise you tov readbthe thread. Oh and learn a little arabic. Im not fluent but its easy to find out "abd al wahhab" means sevant of thebl bestower. So yes, in effect you are using one of Gods names to insult.

Also, if you read my post, I didnt say anything about sects. I said, Quran says not to insult with nicknames.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
The movement or sect known as Wahhabi or Salafi, is referred to as wahhabi because of it's founder, Abd Al Wahhab. Not because of the name of Allah meaning the bestower. I have no idea what they prefer to be called. I'm not insulting with a nickname. May Allah forgive me if I'm wrong. Just identifying them so you know who I'm talking about. And please don't say we're not supposed to divide ourselves into sects if you consider yourself Sunni, Shi'ite, Sufi, Shaafi, Hanafi or whatever. And the Saudi government already did the dividing. When landing in Saudi Arabia, your immigration landing form asks 1) Religion 2) Sect. If you write Sunni, you're fine. If you put something they don't like, good luck getting past immigration to make your pilgrimage. Anyone who defends Saudi Arabia government, has either never been there or is one of them or benefiting from them. Peace!
Again what has Whabist to do with Saudi? Didn't you know the Saudi Royal Family (who aren't Islamic at all) opposes the people who call themselves Whabi's since 1900?

Did you know the most misinformation and occasions comes from Saudi Arabia's Royal family and scholars connected to them regarding Ibn Abd Al Wahhab?

I have been to Saudi myself and there are things that i do not agree with but that doesn't make them as "Bad" as you are trying to describe them, moreover there is no link between the two as Western sources like to portrait. If you actually read the biography of the founder you will have no ground to stay on to condemn any of hes actions.
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Again what has Whabist to do with Saudi? Didn't you know the Saudi Royal Family (who aren't Islamic at all) opposes the people who call themselves Whabi's since 1900?

Did you know the most misinformation and occasions comes from Saudi Arabia's Royal family and scholars connected to them regarding Ibn Abd Al Wahhab?

I have been to Saudi myself and there are things that i do not agree with but that doesn't make them as "Bad" as you are trying to describe them, moreover there is no link between the two as Western sources like to portrait. If you actually read the biography of the founder you will have no ground to stay on to condemn any of hes actions.


and that was the whole point wasn't it

Al Saud are as you agree not Islamic at all.
The ONLY reason they rule is because they done a deal with the Wahabis.

Those same Wahabis used to think that the radio was the devils voice coming down a wire!!!

My question is therefore.

What rights does a tribe from Arabia who has no Islamic inclination at all to rule Medina and Mecca and decide who gets to do Hajj or not and who puts American drone bases that murder Muslims on Arabians holy soil?

Go back to the ikhwan of AlWahab and read some stories of these murdering marauders.
Wahabism is spreading like a cancer all over the region.
Ask the Wahabi if music is allowed and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
Ask the Wahabi if cinemas are allowed and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
Ask the Wahabi what women should wear and if they are allowed to walk along the road without a male escort from her family and he will give the same answer as the Taliban

Taliban are crazy fanatics just like the Wahabi's are.

They both give you the same rhetoric. To both we are all infidels except them.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
and that was the whole point wasn't it

Al Saud are as you agree not Islamic at all.
The ONLY reason they rule is because they done a deal with the Wahabis.

Those same Wahabis used to think that the radio was the devils voice coming down a wire!!!

My question is therefore.

What rights does a tribe from Arabia who has no Islamic inclination at all to rule Medina and Mecca and decide who gets to do Hajj or not and who puts American drone bases that murder Muslims on Arabians holy soil?

Go back to the ikhwan of AlWahab and read some stories of these murdering marauders.
Wahabism is spreading like a cancer all over the region.
Ask the Wahabi if music is allowed and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
Ask the Wahabi if cinemas are allowed and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
Ask the Wahabi what women should wear and if they are allowed to walk along the road without a male escort from her family and he will give the same answer as the Taliban

Taliban are crazy fanatics just like the Wahabi's are.

They both give you the same rhetoric. To both we are all infidels except them.

that's absolutly right , unforunetly most of the people here , ignore it .
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
and that was the whole point wasn't it

Al Saud are as you agree not Islamic at all.
The ONLY reason they rule is because they done a deal with the Wahabis.
:facepalm: Again define a Whabi for me? You don't even know that Saudi existed only of Tribal leaders and they had to come together to elect a ruler. Some of the leaders of those tribes were Wahabi and that's were the connection stops. Whabi's are being criticized by the government because they publicly condemned the Saudi family and there so called "Sharia Law".

Those same Wahabis used to think that the radio was the devils voice coming down a wire!!!
Are you freaking kidding me stop the lies already, if you can't be sincere just stop it.

My question is therefore.

What rights does a tribe from Arabia who has no Islamic inclination at all to rule Medina and Mecca and decide who gets to do Hajj or not and who puts American drone bases that murder Muslims on Arabians holy soil?
Huh.. are you talking about The Royal Family? Will i think everyone here "does" not like the royal family and they are certainly not Whabi's. If they were they would never work with America, they wouldn't allow interest banks, they wouldn't allow the corruption and financial robbery that is taken place there nor would they allow the princes of Saudi to do whatever they want.

Wahabism is spreading like a cancer all over the region.
You mean pure Islam is spreading..

Ask the Wahabi if music is allowed and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
Music is haram what is your point?

Ask the Wahabi if cinemas are allowed and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
If the movies are Islamic related or things that abide by Islamic values they are allowed and not holly-wood pornography and violence.

Ask the Wahabi what women should wear and if they are allowed to walk along the road without a male escort from her family and he will give the same answer as the Taliban
Nope they are not they need a Mharam.

Taliban are crazy fanatics just like the Wahabi's are.
Just like the rest of Sunni's are right? Lets not forget the Taliban are Sunni's and so are Wahabi's.

They both give you the same rhetoric. To both we are all infidels except them.
Hypocrisy in its finest.
All the points you mentioned above in an Sunni interpretation are not allowed so are Sunni's Fanatics like the Taliban?


Now please quote me anything of the biographies were he contradicted Islam.
The thing i don't understand is that you are saying Wahabists are extremist and the Royal Family of Saudi are extremist but if you did any research about the family you would know that they are a corrupt bunch of people who have nothing with Islam.

For example one of the princes has a big mansion were woman work and they are forced to take off there headscarf, hes private jet only has female stewardess and pilots who aren't allowed to wear head-scarfs. An other prince goes to clubs and throws money for belly-dancers and then invites them to hes hotel-room the whole family is corrupt and have no Islamic values at all they do not even abide to the law and that's why Wahabi's and Shia's oppose them.
 
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Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
I identify the most with salafism/"wahhabism". A lot of you brothers and sisters posting are simply ignorant. Who rather keep their hate then actually learn.

Again, the movement has its sore spots, but so do every other sect/movement.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Everyone is a wahabi if they follow Allah, who is Ql Wahab.

May Allah have mercy on the hypocrasy some of you hrothers and sisters are showing. Insulting with nicknames breaks a command from Allah. And then saying salafis, aka "wahabis" dont follow Islam. You cant even follow a simple command in Quran!


Hypocrites.

Everyone hates Saudi Royals. Even the takfriris (who some claim are "wahabi" or salafi.0
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
that's absolutly right , unforunetly most of the people here , ignore it .

Most Muslims sadly are so disconnected from real Islam.
It's very sad the ignorance of Muslims and it's true they just ignore the truth which is plain to see if you have eyes that are open
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Again what has Whabist to do with Saudi? Didn't you know the Saudi Royal Family (who aren't Islamic at all) opposes the people who call themselves Whabi's since 1900?

I've heard there's also many shia's.

If you actually read the biography of the founder you will have no ground to stay on to condemn any of hes actions.

Do you have a link ?

Go back to the ikhwan of AlWahab and read some stories of these murdering marauders.

They both give you the same rhetoric. To both we are all infidels except them.

Do you have any links ?

so Haifa wehbi , is wahbis :D

Lol
 

Yahya310

Member
Just recently in Egypt, there were protesters renouncing violence while holding pictures of the murderer bin Laden.

Most intriguing is that France, Britain, and the US governments support these murderers as they gather in Syria.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
Most Muslims sadly are so disconnected from real Islam.
It's very sad the ignorance of Muslims and it's true they just ignore the truth which is plain to see if you have eyes that are open
Don't you see the hypocrisy in this statement?
You accuse other ''branches'' of Islam calling you ''disconnected of Islam'' and ignorant yet you do the same, lets not forget people can say the same thing about you.

as I said before Al Saud are not in any way Islamic at all

They reign and Wahabi rules that's the deal
It gets worse and worse for you, first you made the allocation that Whabis are extremists like the Taliban and then you say they ally themselves with non practicing corrupted "Muslims'' like the Royal family which one is it?

quote me the quranic verse please or retract that statement
So Islam is only about the Quran?
Are you trying to suggest we should forget about the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam?
Anasheed is allowed but ''Music'' in general isn't this is not only my opinion but of all the four Madhabs.

is singing?
Yes singing is allowed in limitation for example if there are lyrics that do not hold to Islamic value's such as cursing then no.



Reply to Pastek:
I've heard there's also many shia's.
Indeed and not only them so do the Americans and western people, actually anyone that does not agree with Sunni's and Salfi's.

Do you have a link ?
Biography of Imam Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab
 
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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Again what has Whabist to do with Saudi? Didn't you know the Saudi Royal Family (who aren't Islamic at all) opposes the people who call themselves Whabi's since 1900?

That is not true.

I think this topic of Salafism should take part in the same-faith debate section.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
That is not true.

I think this topic of Salafism should take part in the same-faith debate section.

It is true i can cite several reports of the Royal Family to support my claim, i don't make up things to be right.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
That is not true.

I think this topic of Salafism should take part in the same-faith debate section.

Its not true? Why did Osama bin Laden have anger towards the Royal Sauds? They rule with other then the law of Allah. They help kill muslims.
 
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