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Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The transgendered (and drag queens) are targets of the current moral panic and witch hunt. So displaying any amount of respect or human decency toward them = "woke" = satanic, etc.

If it's true that so many people felt offended just because of a campaign featuring a trans celebrity that the company has taken a noticeable hit in revenue, then it seems to me that the US may need to have a major reckoning with how much it currently lives up to the values of freedom, acceptance, and diversity.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The decrease is multifaceted and not necessarily attributable to the Mulvaney campaign in any significant way, from what I've read.




Parenthetically, I deeply detest the obsession of people like Matt Walsh with specific groups and his constant attempts to demonize trans people. It's just sad how much time and effort people like him spend on trying to make another group's life harder, especially since he's someone who identifies as a Catholic while so thoroughly failing to embody Jesus' teachings.

Two things..... In general....

Someone will always be offended by something.

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And individual rights never work out well...

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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
If it's true that so many people felt offended just because of a campaign featuring a trans celebrity that the company has taken a noticeable hit in revenue, then it seems to me that the US may need to have a major reckoning with how much it currently lives up to the values of freedom, acceptance, and diversity.
Almost half of Americans detest freedom, rights, equality, science, etc.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Two things..... Someone will always be offended by something.

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And individual rights never work out well...

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I fully agree on individual rights. I'm in the middle between individualism and collectivism, myself. I believe too much of one at the expense of the other usually leads to deleterious effects on society.

I don't think it harms anyone for a beer company to partner with a trans celebrity, so the backlash strikes me as both misplaced and largely rooted in prejudice or demonization.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sensitive little snowflakes were offended and triggered by the beer company for partnering with a trans activist.
A-B is swill. Now it stepped in it by hiring a swill to shill. It isn't about people being snowflakes. It's about stupid management not knowing their customers and "trans"-philes trying to make hay and be relevant when they aren't.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
A-B is swill. Now it stepped in it by hiring a swill to shill. It isn't about people being snowflakes. It's about stupid management not knowing their customers and "trans"-philes trying to make hay and be relevant when they aren't.

What's the problem in partnering with a celebrity who happens to be trans? Is the campaign about beer or political issues? From what I've read, it's the former, so I don't see what the issue is.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
A-B is swill. Now it stepped in it by hiring a swill to shill. It isn't about people being snowflakes. It's about stupid management not knowing their customers and "trans"-philes trying to make hay and be relevant when they aren't.
Snowflakes. Butthurt, triggered snowflakes clutching their pearls.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Sheesh...the best reason to stop drinking Bud is the taste.
Stopping because they employed a trans person seems ridiculous and bigoted.

That Ultra Right guy is just doing the capitalist thing I'm guessing. Tying a political message to a big standard beer gets him notoriety, some sort of instant audience, and the ability to sell product at a premium price without the need to make a premium product.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I still haven't found any convincing argument as to why the partnership is supposedly such a bad thing. All I have seen is that just because Dylan Mulvaney is openly trans, that means people should be offended by her appearance in an ad campaign.

Is this really the kind of attitude one would expect to see in a developed, diverse country whose constitution is supposed to be built on enshrining freedom?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I fully agree on individual rights. I'm in the middle between individualism and collectivism, myself. I believe too much of one at the expense of the other usually leads to deleterious effects on society.

I don't think it harms anyone for a beer company to partner with a trans celebrity, so the backlash strikes me as both misplaced and largely rooted in prejudice or demonization.

 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Yep. I'm observing you calling people snowflakes because you're triggered.

I don't call people snowflakes, radical right, looney left, etc.

I always try to be very specific when using terms like "radical right," "far left," etc., but to be fair, I do think it is indicative of an extremist anti-trans attitude to boycott a company just for featuring a trans person in an ad campaign. It's the epitome of hateful identity politics.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I always try to be very specific when using terms like "radical right," "far left," etc., but to be fair, I do think it is indicative of an extremist anti-trans attitude to boycott a company just for featuring a trans person in an ad campaign. It's the epitome of hateful identity politics.

I'm not condoning it. I can't control others any more than you can.
 
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