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Walz and his DUI

Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I believe that the charges were reduced, though I don't know why.
 
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Regiomontanus

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
The Hammer said:
So let me get this straight something that happened almost thirty years ago, was lied about 20 years ago.

And I should care now?

Did he pay his fines, and restitution, and settle all court requirements? Yes? Ok then, next issue please.
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As far as I know, he did make full restitution. I just don't know what the 'optics' of this will be once it is more widely known. Fox 'news' and others will obsess over this. It is a speed bump only, *hopefully*.

His dishonesty on this is, though, disappointing.
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Regiomontanus said:
As far as I know, he did make full restitution. I just don't know what the 'optics' of this will be once it is more widely known. Fox 'news' and others will obsess over this. It is a speed bump only, *hopefully*.
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Understand.
Regiomontanus said:
His dishonesty on this is, though, disappointing.
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Yes, but we all lie about that. I know very few people that are honest about the details of their DUIs. **** I was arrested for one last year. There is a reason I don't run for politics, they will tear apart anything just to make you look bad.
 
Regiomontanus

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
The Hammer said:
Understand.

Yes, but we all lie about that. I know very few people that are honest about the details of their DUIs. **** I was arrested for one last year. There is a reason I don't run for politics, they will tear apart anything just to make you look bad.
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Good luck with the fallout of that charge. Some states are pretty harsh (though, one can argue, justified in some cases). I imbibe more that I should at my age but when I do I just walk around in my woods lol.

edit: and sometimes post things here I should not be posting!
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
I believe that the charges were reduced, though I don't know why.
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That often happens with first time offenders. A DUI is a very heavy charge and judges are often willing to work with those that show remorse and are first time offenders. And not just the powerful and influential. A female friend of mine had that happen to her. She had to get a driver interlock device and take various other steps, but her charges were greatly reduced as well. There often is the threat of reintroducing the original charges if one fails on the program designed to keep a person from drinking and driving again. Oh, and she has not repeated. Once was enough for her too.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Subduction Zone said:
That often happens with first time offenders. A DUI is a very heavy charge and judges are often willing to work with those that show remorse and are first time offenders. And not just the powerful and influential. A female friend of mine had that happen to her. She had to get a driver interlock device and take various other steps, but her charges were greatly reduced as well. There often is the threat of reintroducing the original charges if one fails on the program designed to keep a person from drinking and driving again. Oh, and she has not repeated. Once was enough for her too.
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Oh well, I wouldn't know.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Regiomontanus said:
Yeah, I think the charges were dropped. The issue of his dishonesty, though, is a bit of a nail in a tire of the Harris honeymoon bus, I fear.
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Hardly. You should have read the whole article. He came clean at least six years ago and perhaps before then:

"Walz has subsequently acknowledged the facts of the case, admitting during his 2018 campaign for governor of Minnesota that he had been drinking and driving."

Unlike Trump he acknowledged his failure eventually. Also unlike Trump he is not a repeat offender. He is nowhere close to Republican territory in breaking the law and denying it.

How many times do you think that he has to acknowledge that he was a one time offender?
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
His campaign was lying about it well into the 2000s though. I mean, according to the link I posted.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Kathryn said:
Oh well, I wouldn't know.
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From my own personal experience I would not know either. But I know enough people that have done wrongs over the years. Judges are almost always willing to lower charges for introductory crimes (rape and murder not so much). If the first time that a person drove drunk was the last our traffic fatalities would drop dramatically. That is why they focus more on treatment and solving the problem rather than revenge. We have learned over the years that just locking people up does not solve the problems that caused the behavior. I have no problem with harsh punishment for repeat offenders. Some people cannot learn and have to be prevented from harming others. But I will give everyone at least one Mulligan if they have not harmed others.
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
“According to Walz’s campaign staff, Walz denies being drunk the night of the incident. Walz was hard of hearing, a result of his years as an artillery soldier in the Army National Guard, and had trouble hearing the trooper, according to Meredith Salsbery, communications director for the Walz campaign,” read the report in the New Ulm Journal, a local newspaper.

“He couldn’t understand what the trooper was telling him during the field sobriety test, and the trooper refused to speak up,” Salsbery said at the time.
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In 2018, when running for governor, Walz offered a markedly different version of events.

According to Walz, the arrest was a life-changing moment, motivating him to change his behavior. He said he has since given up alcohol and his go-to drink is now Diet Mountain Dew.

“You have responsibilities to others,” Gwen Walz recalled telling her husband. “You can’t afford to make foolish decisions.”
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I guess he figured that enough time had passed. Oh well, I don't much care.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
The Hammer said:
Understand.

Yes, but we all lie about that. I know very few people that are honest about the details of their DUIs. **** I was arrested for one last year. There is a reason I don't run for politics, they will tear apart anything just to make you look bad.
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Getting a DUI is often a matter of bad luck. I can say that there have been times, maybe 4-6 in my life, that I drove my car and surely would have failed a sobriety test. I limit my drinking but have been lucky.

I will bet most everyone has driven and may have failed a test if pulled over. It’s easy to go to a baseball game, drink a few beers, and be just over the limit.
 
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