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Warmest March in Global Recordkeeping; 2016 Roars Ahead of Pack

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
That said, the general scientific consensus is that GW may be the cause of this incredibly strong El Nino, but perhaps not the only cause.
That's the tough part. All the more reason to continue to invest into this research.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member

I have problems on every level that I deal with every day caused by people if there are a few less people in the world I only see that as beneficial. The world is going to end eventually so humans shrinking the time period for themselves is no big deal to me. The world is not that great a place any way rather than living in a sucky world for billions of years I would prefer to live in a happy world for 10 years. My goals are in line with making life happy not long.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Not to rain on anyone's GW parade, but the really hot march is being ascribed to El Nino. Next year, experts predict La Nina will cause a colder than normal winter:

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/ne...g-march-may-cinch-2016-as-hottest-year/66692/

That said, the general scientific consensus is that GW may be the cause of this incredibly strong El Nino, but perhaps not the only cause.
Good points, so we always have to be careful when dealing with localized conditions and also short-term fluctuations.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I have problems on every level that I deal with every day caused by people if there are a few less people in the world I only see that as beneficial. The world is going to end eventually so humans shrinking the time period for themselves is no big deal to me. The world is not that great a place any way rather than living in a sucky world for billions of years I would prefer to live in a happy world for 10 years. My goals are in line with making life happy not long.
Isn't that sort of a rather selfish way of looking at this? I have grandchildren, for example, and I wouldn't want to leave them a mess whereas there a ways of not too much inconvenience that could help alleviate the problems.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Isn't that sort of a rather selfish way of looking at this? I have grandchildren, for example, and I wouldn't want to leave them a mess whereas there a ways of not too much inconvenience that could help alleviate the problems.

So once you fix Global warming everything is going to be so great for them. Global warming is the only problem they have to face in the future? Global warming can only be fixed by government and corporations all you need to do is convince them its not an inconvenience. I do more personally to prevent it then most people you know in your life but I am not going to make an impact.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Can I grow coconut trees or not? If it gets hot I want to grow coconut trees. Maybe some bananas too.

I'm willing to adjust accordingly.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
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With all of the flooding in the news and we have had record forest fires this spring already... to those of you who are still skeptics, what is it that still gives you hesitation to believe this might be a real thing?
It is the global warming, which is a direct consequence of a significant rise of CO2 emissions in the atmosphere. And the greenhouse effect is the result
 
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Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I have problems on every level that I deal with every day caused by people if there are a few less people in the world I only see that as beneficial. The world is going to end eventually so humans shrinking the time period for themselves is no big deal to me. The world is not that great a place any way rather than living in a sucky world for billions of years I would prefer to live in a happy world for 10 years. My goals are in line with making life happy not long.
Shesh, you must be a blast a parties. I find your perspective to be really selfish, but that's just my take.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Shesh, you must be a blast a parties. I find your perspective to be really selfish, but that's just my take.

Yes and your perspective is not selfish? Your doing this for your children or grandchildren or fellow citizens. What about those poor countries that need the work. What about those businessmen that will go bankrupt. Those coal miners, oil producers and gas peddlers. There all bad people and deserve what they get. If we don't punish them now our poor grandkids will suffer. Yep not selfish at all.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Yes and your perspective is not selfish?
Advocating for the preservation of our environment for everyone for generations to come? I do not see how that is selfish.

What about those poor countries that need the work.
This is another topic entirely, however, it is predicted that large, federal investments in grants related to green energy will help create jobs.

What about those businessmen that will go bankrupt.
Like who, exactly?

Those coal miners, oil producers and gas peddlers.
The same argument was probably used when automobiles became popular. "What about the stable boys! The horse shoers!" Bottom line, is that this kind of change would be gradual over several decades. They would see the train coming far enough in advance to get off the tracks. I will not let abstract doomsday theories regarding a minority of workers stand in the way of technological progress that will benefit mankind in a bigger way.

There all bad people and deserve what they get. If we don't punish them now our poor grandkids will suffer.
I didn't say any of this. If this is going to be your posting style from here on out, save you (and more importantly, me!) some time and don't.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
So once you fix Global warming everything is going to be so great for them. Global warming is the only problem they have to face in the future? Global warming can only be fixed by government and corporations all you need to do is convince them its not an inconvenience. I do more personally to prevent it then most people you know in your life but I am not going to make an impact.
It's sorta like saying let's not try and stop crime because there will always be some problems.

Secondly, each one of us has an impact on events whether we realize it or not, much like the Buddhist saying that when a butterfly flaps its wings, it affects the weather the world over. The world's population is made up of individuals, and individuals and groups of individuals can affect change.

Thirdly, I'm glad you have taken personal action on this as I do believe we all should.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yes and your perspective is not selfish? Your doing this for your children or grandchildren or fellow citizens. What about those poor countries that need the work. What about those businessmen that will go bankrupt. Those coal miners, oil producers and gas peddlers. There all bad people and deserve what they get. If we don't punish them now our poor grandkids will suffer. Yep not selfish at all.
Except projections have it that up to 2 billion people will likely be negatively affected by the current drift, and the poor would suffer more disproportionately.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Advocating for the preservation of our environment for everyone for generations to come? I do not see how that is selfish.


The same argument was probably used when automobiles became popular. "What about the stable boys! The horse shoers!" Bottom line, is that this kind of change would be gradual over several decades. They would see the train coming far enough in advance to get off the tracks. I will not let abstract doomsday theories regarding a minority of workers stand in the way of technological progress that will benefit mankind in a bigger way.


I didn't say any of this. If this is going to be your posting style from here on out, save you (and more importantly, me!) some time and don't.

Who are you advocating for, The earth will survive and some other species will be the dominate species. You are not advocating for that species. Most humans don't really care right now or are against so your not advocating for humans. Perhaps your advocating for all the species that will die out. Your like doctor Doolittle you can speak for the animals. Of course you are selecting certain species to survive over other species is that selfless?

Here's a neat result of Global warming. The human species dies out. Dolphins inherit the earth. With Dolphins advanced intelligence already it is only 1 millions before they spread peace and harmony through the universe. They actually figure out how to bring humans back and use your great grandchild's dna. So your offspring get to live in this perfect new world. At first we would be confined to habitats until the dolphins figured out how to get rid of the arrogance and violence built in to human nature. I figure after 2 millions years we could be cohabiting in a peaceful universe. Which would never have happened if Dolphins didn't inherit the earth.
 
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Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Who are you advocating for, The earth will survive and some other species will be the dominate species. You are not advocating for that species.
What a silly thing to say. Why would I advocate for something against my own species?

Perhaps your advocating for all the species that will die out. Your like doctor Doolittle you can speak for the animals. Of course you are selecting certain species to survive over other species is that selfless?
We... we aren't talking about the same thing, are we?

Here's a neat result of Global warming. The human species dies out. Dolphins inherit the earth.
Is this even a conversation anymore?

With Dolphins advanced intelligence already it is only 1 millions before they spread peace and harmony through the universe.
Oh, I see. You are a troll making a funny. I like jokes!

Which would never have happened if Dolphins didn't inherit the earth.
Yes, but that does not answer the fundamental question... why can't kangaroos jump backwards?
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
What a silly thing to say. Why would I advocate for something against my own species?


We... we aren't talking about the same thing, are we?


Is this even a conversation anymore?


Oh, I see. You are a troll making a funny. I like jokes!


Yes, but that does not answer the fundamental question... why can't kangaroos jump backwards?

I'm not being funny at all, you have the arrogance to apply your vision to the world without asking if people want it. If people don't want it they are either ignorant or selfish. You are being selfish. Of course you are on the right because science has proven with hard facts everyone will die if we don't . Its just another extremist cause in the many extremist causes.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I'm not being funny at all, you have the arrogance to apply your vision to the world without asking if people want it.
Climate change is a big deal. A large portion of the scientific community agrees. There is data to support some of these theories. Public opinion of climate change varies but there is a large group of people (that is continuing to grow) that believe this is something we should be investing time in. So, to say it is my vision is inaccurate. It is one that I share with a lot of other folks.

You are being selfish.
That has been suggested. I will add your comment card into the box.

Of course you are on the right because science has proven with hard facts everyone will die if we don't .
"Science" has not said that.

Its just another extremist cause in the many extremist causes.
The only extremist I have seen in this thread is you. You have been riding the outliers and extreme examples from post one. Honestly, the novelty has worn off. If you want to continue a critical discussion, I am game. But I want more than your ramblings about dolphins and your desire to see the human population fade because it would be more convenient for you.
 
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bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Climate change is a big deal. A large portion of the scientific community agrees. There is data to support some of these theories. Public opinion of climate change varies but there is a large group of people (that is continuing to grow) that believe this is something we should be investing time in. So, to say it is my vision is inaccurate. It is one that I share with a lot of other folks.

The only extremist I have seen in this thread is you. You have been riding the outliers and extreme examples from post one. Honestly, the novelty has worn off. If you want to continue a critical discussion, I am game. But I want more than your ramblings about dolphins and your desire to see the human population fade because it would be more convenient for you.

Thats fine I gave my personal opinion which the thread indicated it wanted and then I was assaulted as being selfish and wrong on all counts. You will never win your point if you keep insulting people they will just get tired and leave you alone.


Have a great day!
 
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