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Was CNN Tipped Off About FBI Raid Of Roger Stone?

Was their a leak to CNN about the raid and arrest of Roger Stone?


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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
CNN has had story, after story, after story related to the Mueller investigation which relied on “anonymous sources”. Are supposed to believe that all those sources suddenly went silent?
But, according to CNN, these "leaks" were not from the Mueller camp but usually with someone within the Trump camp. Even the latter admits that the leaks from within that camp are excessive.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Seems that there is some questions about how CNN was the only news(?) source that knew(?) about the FBI raid at Roger Stone's house at 4AM.
CNN says it was the reporters instinct that allowed the camera crew to be at Stone's house for the early morning raid:
Absolutely they were tipped. And either someone got paid for that tip and similar tips of a similar nature, or someone will be paid. CNN is a major organization that makes money by peddling propaganda. Why would they not pay a dollar for what makes them 10?

I am confused that there is any surprise that there are loose lips in a department or that there is corporate greed in a major company.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
But, according to CNN, these "leaks" were not from the Mueller camp but usually with someone within the Trump camp. Even the latter admits that the leaks from within that camp are excessive.
No. I was referring to the “anonymous sources within the Mueller investigation”. Those were not from the “Trump camp”.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Obviously there is no law that forbids the DOJ from tipping off a news outlet about an upcoming raid or arrest. Therefore, if that's what happened in the instant case, I see no reason to be upset by it.
No, that isn’t obvious whatsoever. Indeed that is most likely incorrect. For a law enforcement agent to reveal details of an active arrest action is against the law, official policy and procedures, or both.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No. I was referring to the “anonymous sources within the Mueller investigation”. Those were not from the “Trump camp”.
There's been very few such leaks, especially for the size and scope of this investigation.

Could you cite me some examples? I've been following this very closely with numerous news sources saying that they're surprised as to how few such leaks there are from the Mueller camp over almost two years? And aren't you even aware of the myriads of leaks coming form the Trump camp?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So, let me get this straight. You think a law enforcement officer can legally reveal the contents of an arrest warrant before it is executed? So he could blab it to the target of the warrant too then, right? “Hey, Mr. Druglord, we just got a warrant to come arrest you.” LOL You’re so funny.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There's been very few such leaks, especially for the size and scope of this investigation.

Could you cite me some examples? I've been following this very closely with numerous news sources saying that they're surprised as to how few such leaks there are from the Mueller camp over almost two years? And aren't you even aware of the myriads of leaks coming form the Trump camp?
https://web.archive.org/web/2018072...-trump-june-2016-meeting-knowledge/index.html

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/30/17795674/michael-cohen-trump-russia-mueller-cnn-lanny-davis

What We Know About BuzzFeed’s Michael Cohen Scoop, and Why Mueller Shot It Down (In this one Buzzfeed was the originator of the later proven false story but CNN gave it support.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Did you actually read your own links that say nothing about leaks from the Mueller camp? And if you're truly worried about leaks, then maybe consider this: President Trump's administration has been plagued by leaks of sensitive information, and the problem is showing no signs of letting up as Trump passes his 500-day mark in office... -- Leaks continue to plague Trump White House despite crackdown
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Seems that there is some questions about how CNN was the only news(?) source that knew(?) about the FBI raid at Roger Stone's house at 4AM.
CNN says it was the reporters instinct that allowed the camera crew to be at Stone's house for the early morning raid:
CNN says it wasn't tipped off about Roger Stone arrest: 'It's reporter's instinct'
CNN Pushes Back It Was 'Tipped Off' by FBI About Roger Stone's Arrest

Other sources are wondering if CNN was tipped off about the raid by someone within the DOJ.
Congressman Demands Probe into CNN's Presence at Roger Stone Raid
Andy Biggs pushes DOJ to probe whether CNN was tipped off to Roger Stone arrest
Mueller leaked pre-dawn raid on Roger Stone to CNN – set up crew an hour before raid – Pacific Pundit

Seems far more likely CNN had a crew near his home as Stone has been in the news for months now.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So, let me get this straight. You think a law enforcement officer can legally reveal the contents of an arrest warrant before it is executed? So he could blab it to the target of the warrant too then, right? “Hey, Mr. Druglord, we just got a warrant to come arrest you.” LOL You’re so funny.

Apparently you need to work harder getting it straight. This is what I said regarding the law: " Obviously
there is no law that forbids the DOJ from tipping off a news outlet about an upcoming raid or arrest." And you said: "that is most likely incorrect." Therefore I continue to challenge you to cite the law.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Apparently you need to work harder getting it straight. This is what I said regarding the law: " Obviously
there is no law that forbids the DOJ from tipping off a news outlet about an upcoming raid or arrest." And you said: "that is most likely incorrect." Therefore I continue to challenge you to cite the law.
Potentially obstruction of justice. Depends on the jurisdiction though and also how much someone might care to pursue the charge.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Potentially obstruction of justice. Depends on the jurisdiction though and also how much someone might care to pursue the charge.
Do you know of any case of prosecution for Obstruction against a FBI agent or DOJ person for such a tip off? I don't.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Do you know of any case of prosecution for Obstruction against a FBI agent or DOJ person for such a tip off? I don't.
No, of course there wouldn't be either. But you could make a case for it under some definitions.

Proving that a person had the intent to interfere with the investigation by tipping off the news would be a nightmare. That does not mean one could not be charged and could not be found guilty. You asked for a law, I gave you a potential law--a stretch, I concede.
 
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