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Was it wrong for Maxine Waters to call for Mob violence against conservative politicians

Was it wrong for Maxine Waters to encourage mob violence against some conservatives

  • It was Wrong

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • It was not Wrong

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • She did not encourage violence

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • Business do not have to serve people with political views

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • It is unimportant to be civil to people you disagree with strongly

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Respect and civility is a two way street

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • She was unwise in choice of words but she did not mean to stir up violence

    Votes: 6 31.6%

  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
It seems uncivil and not appropriate and encourages more of the same
good leadership? Sadly no.

Has the democratic party lost it's way?

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Judicial Watch sent a hand-delivered letter Monday to the chairman and co-chairman of the House Office of Congressional Ethics calling for an investigation into whether Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., violated House ethics rules by encouraging violence against Trump administration Cabinet members.

The Office of Congressional Ethics describes itself on its website as “an independent, non-partisan entity charged with reviewing allegations of misconduct against Members, officers, and staff of the U.S. House of Representatives and, when appropriate, referring matters to the House Committee on Ethics.”

Waters addressed a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday and told a crowd: “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere.”
Unquote
Tom Fitton: Maxine Waters should be investigated for encouraging violence against Trump officials

Is there anything Democrats learned from the debacle?
Granted Trump is not excelling in Diplomacy but Democrats are losing big at civility and honesty
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
She went way far overboard...what we think, isn't what we should say !
And calling for protestation is one thing, but.....too far !
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If that was indeed her intention then yes, it was definitely wrong. Although 'push back' is normally a figure of speech, not a call to violence. Like when some republicans said they would push back against Trump during the trade policy negotiations. If that's the case, calling crowd of demonstrators a mob and calling this a 'incitement for violence' is a bit hyperbolic.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
This is but another example of how the very far fringe left is destroying the democratic party and attempting to cause division within the country. These are the very same tactics the .brown shirts and Nazis used to suppress and silence political enemies and if this isn't another nail in the democrats political coffin I don't know what is. If the dems have any hope of making gains they are going to have to offer something more than being the party of hate and distance themselves away from this nut job Maxine Waters, some already have.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This is but another example of how the very far fringe left is destroying the democratic party and attempting to cause division within the country. These are the very same tactics the .brown shirts and Nazis used to suppress and silence political enemies and if this isn't another nail in the democrats political coffin I don't know what is. If the dems have any hope of making gains they are going to have to offer something more than being the party of hate and distance themselves away from this nut job Maxine Waters, some already have.
I fixed your post.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Trump shows continuous pattern of speech behavior complimenting facism and facist government? No big deal.

Democrat uses a common phrase "push back," out come the Nazi references.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
If that was indeed her intention then yes, it was definitely wrong. Although 'push back' is normally a figure of speech, not a call to violence. Like when some republicans said they would push back against Trump during the trade policy negotiations. If that's the case, calling crowd of demonstrators a mob and calling this a 'incitement for violence' is a bit hyperbolic.

Exactly. Note Merriam-Webster: pushback

1. the action of forcing an object backward

2. resistance or opposition in response to a policy or regulation especially by those affected

Although I think it should suffice to simply and civilly separate them from their children and reserve them a caged table at the detention center of their choice.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Trump shows continuous pattern of speech behavior complimenting facism and facist government? No big deal.

Democrat uses a common phrase "push back," out come the Nazi references.


Trump has some poor undiplomatic behavior but
a good leader rises above that

It reminds me of the Obama high ups who went to Ferguson, stirred up moves and then got outta doge before the mob violence they stirred up started
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Exactly. Note Merriam-Webster: pushback

1. the action of forcing an object backward

2. resistance or opposition in response to a policy or regulation especially by those affected

Although I think it should suffice to simply and civilly separate them from their children and reserve them a caged table at the detention center of their choice.

So you're fine with what she did?

And no, I am not fine with much of Trump's rhetoric either
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Trump has some poor undiplomatic behavior but
a good leader rises above that

It reminds me of the Obama high ups who went to Ferguson, stirred up moves and then got outta doge before the mob violence they stirred up started
Actual evidence they had any part in the mob violence? I was in Portland when the riots happened here. It had nothing to do with the demonstration and everything to do with an external anarchist group. The actual demonstrators went where they were directed to go by the police and continued peacefully demonstrating.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Actual evidence they had any part in the mob violence? I was in Portland when the riots happened here. It had nothing to do with the demonstration and everything to do with an external anarchist group. The actual demonstrators went where they were directed to go by the police and continued peacefully demonstrating.

There might be a different answer regarding people engaged in peaceful protest and people who were bussed in from outside the communities
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It seems uncivil and not appropriate and encourages more of the same
good leadership? Sadly no.

Has the democratic party lost it's way?
You post this but support Trump? Maybe look up the word "hypocrisy", whirlingmerc. I had problems with what she said, although she did not advocate actually using violence. However, there are ways to protest that are not so brazen against persons.

So, the OP is really not truthful, plus is pathetically hypocritical as defending this guy who has very much threatened some with physical harm, such as what happened during the campaign in one of his speeches whereas he said it was OK for his security to manhandle and even punch a protester. And now his morally bankrupt policy has children sleeping in cages on cement floors that was reported on by a former worker who worked on one of them who just quite in disgust a couple of days ago.

"To cooperate with evil is evil"-- Gandhi, and so much of what Trump has said and done well fit into that category, and yet so many "Christians" somehow believe that's all fine & dandy. To them I have to ask "What Would Jesus Do"? Seems like they've forgotten what Jesus was largely about.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Is there anything Democrats learned from the debacle?
Granted Trump is not excelling in Diplomacy but Democrats are losing big at civility and honesty

It wasn't wrong for Trump.

Some folks are saying that the "war" is for the independent voter. I suspect most folks will side against the party that's seen as more aggressive.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
I guess I know won't be serving me in his deli.

Abraham Lincoln spoke out against mob violence as a 28 year old politician.

"Accounts of outrages committed by mobs form the every-day news of the times. They have pervaded the country from New England to Louisiana; they are neither peculiar to the eternal snows of the former nor the burning suns of the latter; they are not the creature of climate, neither are they confined to the slave-holding or the non-slave-holding states. Alike they spring up among the pleasure-hunting masters of Southern slaves, and the order-loving citizens of the land of steady habits. Whatever, then, their cause may be, it is common to the whole country."

Could use more encouragements toward civility by political leaders
 
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