Kelly of the Phoenix
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Maybe you're immortal as long as no one kills you. Like, your natural lifespan is immortal, but a bullet will still do the trick.Immortal but able to die always struck me as odd.
Not if the NT is being written while the Church is concerned about inherited diocese. They wanted control of the church and any kids of Jesus would've ruined that idea.If Jesus was married, then His wife and kids woulda shown up in Acts or gotten a mention in the Epistles.
What's funnier to me is that "family values" is promoted as a thing while Jesus is frankly as anti-family as you can get.
And atheists and other non-Christians tend to do better than that.Besides, according to a Pew Research Center study on how well people really know their Bible, "Jews and Mormons... [averaged] 20.5 and 20.3 correct answers, respectively. Protestants as a whole [averaged] 16 correct answers; Catholics as a whole, 14.7." Maybe Catholics are the ones who need to start studying the Bible. I'm available if you ever decide to do that and need a tutor.
That he valued the same things you do?Do none of you understand what Jesus being married and having children would have meant?
The message we get, intentional or otherwise, is that we aren't important enough to do things the right way promptly.Why did it take Jesus 4,000 years to put in an appearance the first time?.....and why have we been waiting another 2,000 years for him to come back?
Answer those questions and you will be able to answer yours.
50% the Golden Rule, 50% apocalypse-mongeringWhat was the theme of Jesus' entire ministry?
What if John was having a real vision, but was watching people watch the Left Behind movies? He wouldn't know what movies were, and they'd look real to him, so ...You need to know when this is to be fulfilled, and why it hasn't happened yet. Who is God with? Where are they? In heaven or on earth?
Is there a particular reason many Christians don't listen to Jesus?God's law to Israel demonstrated that justice demands equivalency. This is seen in Exodus 21:23-25:
"But if a fatality does occur, then you must give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, blow for blow. (see also Deuteronomy 19:21)
But there are strong reasons as to why that is, though. Mary certainly wasn't popular amongst the male apostles who thought they deserved all of Jesus' free time.There is not a single reference to Jesus as a married man on earth.
He didn't have to eat or go to the bathroom either. Why bother growing up at all? Why not just be born stillborn? Same death, no time wasted.His mission did not include a wife or children as he was not sent to find a literal wife, he was sent to give his life for mankind and to choose a heavenly "bride".
If I recall, it was a pope who conflated the two characters as part of a smear campaign against Mary M.But you are saying that in actuality she wasn't, right?
Reading materialNo links? I figured. You blow a lot of hot air, you know that?
Psst ... he was human ... pass it on...Why would you try to humanize Jesus.
The gospels are usually dated after Paul, so yeah, it can be said that Paul invented Christianity.On what basis can you make such a claim? How does Paul invent Jesus' mission when Jesus himself declared it? (Matthew 20:28)
His ACTUAL followers were Jews calling themselves "the Way".
Have you ever read histories of the bible?Yep, I believe that the Bible is the word of God and I don't think that the being who authored it (with the power to create the universe) allows men to tamper with his message.
Besides, you only believe that because some HUMANS told you that.
Is Strongs a divine secretary?and then I go to Strongs
And you don't see how this affects you?And most Bible translation published by Christendom's scholars are "poor" translations in many cases. Bias towards their own doctrines has them rendering some words in ways that support the lies that were introduced centuries ago when the church fell into apostasy. This was foretold by Jesus and the apostles, so its no surprise.
Yeah, don't you know that if Jesus wasn't the groom at THAT particular wedding, that means he NEVER got married?I guess he was no groom at that wedding anyway.
His tone was more of a spoiled brat that didn't care about his mom's opinions. When was he ever shown to be loving towards her?When Mary approached her son about the matter, perhaps expecting him to use his God-given power, he gently reproved her.
But I thought he was supposed to teach us the Golden Rule and stuff, right? Why should he have to be TOLD to be nice for others?As the Christ or anointed One, he was not under her authority.
It is also for social bonding and, in violent cases, domination.The only known justification for sex is for purpose of children (If based on necessity-under population).
What does it have to do with lust? Lust for fruit? Eve wasn't "born" yet when the rule about the trees was made and even her first thought after the lizard talks to her is "fruit .... yum". There was no rational discourse about the merits of eating it or anything. It was a child taking the bait.remember what original sin is