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Was Jesus really born in December?

ch'ang

artist in training
Here you are
The celebration of Christ's birth in the the early church

In the first 200 years of Christian history, no mention is made of the calendar date of Jesus' birth. Not until the year 336 do we find the first mention of a celebration of His birth.

Why this omission? In the case of the Church fathers, the reason is that, during the three centuries after Christ's life on earth, the event considered most worthy of commemoration was the date of His death. In comparison, the date of His birth was considered insignificant. As the Encyclopedia Americana explains, "Christmas... was, according to many authorities, not celebrated in the first centuries of the Christian church, as the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth..." (1944 edition, "Christmas").

Speculation on the proper date began in the 3rd and 4th centuries, when the idea of fixing Christ's birthday started. Quite a controversy arose among Church leaders. Some were opposed to such a celebration. Origen (185-254) strongly recommended against such an innovation. "In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into this world" (Catholic Encyclopedia, 1908 edition, Vol. 3, p. 724, "Natal Day").

During this time eight specific dates during six different months were proposed by various groups. December 25, although one of the last dates to be proposed, was the one finally accepted by the leadership of the Western church.

A summary of the debate on the dates of Christ's birth appears in The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church: "Though speculation as to the time of year of Christ's birth dates from the early 3rd century, Clement of Alexandria suggesting the 20th of May, the celebration of the anniversary does not appear to have been general till the later 4th century. The earliest mention of the observance on Dec. 25th is in the Philocalian Calendar, representing Roman practice of the year 336. This date was probably chosen to oppose the feast of the Natalis Solis Invicti [nativity of the unconquerable sun] by the celebration of the birth of the 'Sun of Righteousness' and its observance in the West, seems to have spread from Rome" (1983 edition, Oxford University Press, New York, 1983, p. 280, "Christmas").

Around 200, when Clement of Alexandria mentioned the speculations about Christ's birthday, he said nothing about a celebration on that day. He casually reported the various ideas extant at that time: "And there are those who have determined not only the year of our Lord's birth, but also the day..., the 25th day of Pachon... Furthermore, others say that He was born on the 24th or 25th of Pharmuthi" ("The Stromata, or Miscellanies," The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 2, Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, 1986, p. 333).

Later, in 243, the official feast calendar of the time, De Pascha Computus, places the date of Christ's birth as March 28. Other dates suggested were April 2 and November 18. Meanwhile, in the East, January 6 was chosen, a date the Greeks had celebrated as the birth of the god Dionysus and the Egyptians as the birth of the god Osiris. Although pagans commonly celebrated the birthdays of their gods, in the Bible a birthday is never celebrated to the true God (who, of course, had no birth or day of origin).

December 25 popularized

In Rome December 25 was made popular by Pope Liberius in 354 and became the rule in the West in 435 when the first "Christ mass" was officiated by Pope Sixtus III. This coincided with the date of a celebration by the Romans to their primary god, the Sun, and to Mithras, a popular Persian sun god supposedly born on the same day. The Roman Catholic writer Mario Righetti candidly admits that, "to facilitate the acceptance of the faith by the pagan masses, the Church of Rome found it convenient to institute the 25th of December as the feast of the birth of Christ to divert them from the pagan feast, celebrated on the same day in honor of the 'Invincible Sun' Mithras, the conqueror of darkness" (Manual of Liturgical History, 1955, Vol. 2, p. 67).

Protestant historian Henry Chadwick sums up the controversy: "Moreover, early in the fourth century there begins in the West (where first and by whom is not known) the celebration of December 25th, the birthday of the Sun-god at the winter solstice, as the date for the nativity of Christ. How easy it was for Christianity and solar religion to become entangled at the popular level is strikingly illustrated by a mid-fifth century sermon of Pope Leo the Great, rebuking his over-cautious flock for paying reverence to the Sun on the steps of St. Peter's before turning their back on it to worship inside the westward-facing basilica" (The Early Church, Penguin Books, London, 1967, p. 126).

The Encyclopedia Americana makes this clear: "In the fifth century, the Western Church ordered it [Christ's birth] to be observed forever on the day of the old Roman feast of the birth of Sol [the sun god], as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ's birth existed" (1944 edition, "Christmas").
- From http://www.new-life.net/chrtms10.htm
 

Lindsey-Loo

Steel Magnolia
Was Jesus really born in December?


Who cares? We're not celebrating his birthday- we're just celebrating his birth! It doesn't matter what day we celebrate it on- personally, I celebrate it everyday! But as long as the thought of Jesus coming and dying is there, it doesn't matter what day you celebrate it on.

I say the same thing when people try to tell me that Christmas is a pagan holiday. Christmas trees, presents, etc. are all fun traditions- but they have nothing to do with what I really celebrate Christmas for. I look @ it this way- I'm not celebrating a pagan holiday; I'm celebrating the birth of Jesus on a day that happens to be when Santa Claus comes and there's a bajillion presents under a dead tree.
 

greatcalgarian

Well-Known Member
Christiangirl0909 said:
Who cares? We're not celebrating his birthday- we're just celebrating his birth! It doesn't matter what day we celebrate it on- personally, I celebrate it everyday! But as long as the thought of Jesus coming and dying is there, it doesn't matter what day you celebrate it on.

I say the same thing when people try to tell me that Christmas is a pagan holiday. Christmas trees, presents, etc. are all fun traditions- but they have nothing to do with what I really celebrate Christmas for. I look @ it this way- I'm not celebrating a pagan holiday; I'm celebrating the birth of Jesus on a day that happens to be when Santa Claus comes and there's a bajillion presents under a dead tree.
Do you feel a bit happier when some one remembers your birthday and wish you a happy birthday on that day? And do you feel a little bit depress when your birthday passed by without any one noticing it?

Well if you do, then Jesus also cares about people remembering his birthday. If you do not, then perhaps Jesus could not be bother as well.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
ch'ang said:
Censuses were almost always done during the harvest season of September and October when they would do the least damage to the economy, and also a census taken during the dead of winter would have been unpopular and ineffective. I know that these facts are irrelevant to most people but just felt the need to post when people go around constantly telling me to be happy because it is Jesus’s birthday
This is what I believe to be true also. The Roman census was done in the fall. Also a tax would have been collected at the same time as the census. Taxes would have been collected at harvest time and no later. Roman authority would be impatient in waiting to collect taxes from the harvest. This leads us to believe that Jesus was born in the fall.
 
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