Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
LOL.
Sorry if I misread that.In the tree he answered me - disagreeing with what I said - and you answered him - with your first word being - Agree.
What did you actually mean? Who were you replying to?
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Was Jesus the Messiah?
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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LOL.
Sorry if I misread that.In the tree he answered me - disagreeing with what I said - and you answered him - with your first word being - Agree.
What did you actually mean? Who were you replying to?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
LOL.
In the tree he answered me - disagreeing with what I said - and you answered him - with your first word being - Agree.
What did you actually mean? Who were you replying to?
I thought you were arguing that Isaaihs son was the Messiah, doesn't matter, as you weren't.
Though I don't think the witch's child was the same character in the proceeding verses, it's a little confusing because there isn't a clear paragraph break in the Bible, but there might be in the Hebrew texts.
s2a
Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
Not to quibble unnecessarily...
...but your query presumes that "jesus" was an existent person, which is hardly even a point of established and pointed fact.
Certainly any mythological charcter can be claimed to be a god, demi-god, or messianic entity... but claims alone (especially those derived from religious texts that claim prophecy as "truth", or inerrant "fact") are the most dubious sources imaginable. Just to be clear, most religious texts attesting to the "truth" of a messiah or claimed redeemer tend to be self-fulfilling, in that prediction of past events are somehow undeniably revealing harbingers of current events.
If you wish to assert that "Jesus" of biblical Scripture was indeed a "person" of estimable and factual existence, extra-bibilcal references would aid in support of your premised inquiry at the outset.
In terms of religious adherence and testimony to claims of divine entity, there is more "scripture" available to validate the "existence" of Zeus, or Apollo, than "Jesus" might ever claim as even a carpenter, much less a redeemer of humanity.
It's all about "faith", not "fact", nor upon any argument predicated/postulated within a self-validating mythos.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
So I take is your answer is 'no'.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Dead people usually have a hard time doing things on earth.
Its almost as if they cant do things on earth while they are dead.
TheKnight
Guardian of Life
The time frame isn't given, but historically and rationally we can say that if someone has died and did not succeed at the messianic mission, they most likely were not the messiah.
AmbiguousGuy
Well-Known Member
They can still smell.
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
4;171 O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Surah An-Nisa
Surah An-Nisa