We Are All Born Muslim

[AdamRaja]

That doesn't matter. You a making a declaration about people's identity without their consent. If you don't see that as a problem then you are a part of the minority that makes your religion look bad in my opinion.

Ok. That is your opinion that your entitled to. That is alright with me.

 

[Cacotopia]

A human baby is a ball of flesh without it's own thoughts until several years after birth. Most people have NO MEMORY of their toddler years. Because I think, their body and mind is in BOOT DISK mode learning basic motor function, language, balancing, how to eat, and coordination, the most basic and rudimentary functions in human life.

Even post gaining sentient consciousness you are an imprint of what your parents and your surroundings upload into your life experieces. and you are merely a reflection of that. You don't gain self determination until maybe 15+ years beyond birth. Prior to that decisions are made for you, generally speaking some people grow up a lot faster than others from their vastly different life experiences.

 

[AdamRaja]

A human baby is a ball of flesh without it's own thoughts until several years after birth. Most people have NO MEMORY of their toddler years. Because I think, their body and mind is in BOOT DISK mode learning basic motor function, language, balancing, how to eat, and coordination, the most basic and rudimentary functions in human life.

Even post gaining sentient consciousness you are an imprint of what your parents and your surroundings upload into your life experieces. and you are merely a reflection of that. You don't gain self determination until maybe 15+ years beyond birth.

Alright, cool.

 

[Arefugeeseekingahome]

It was like that 1,000 years ago in Europe.
2018, not so much, for Christians i mean, not Islam.

People arent born into Christianity like it was

Although i dont follow the theology of muslims, generally they fight for their culture and morality so thats good.

 

[AdamRaja]

It was like that 1,000 years ago in Europe.
2018, not so much, for Christians i mean, not Islam.

People arent born into Christianity like it was

Although i dont follow the theology of muslims, generally they fight for their culture and morality so thats good.

What? lol

 

[viole]

Awesome. You know so much then no need to remain on this thread.. Except now your following me.. Yay me.

Of course I am following you. How could I not follow someone who believes I was born muslim?

By the way, "your following me" does not mean anything. I guess you meant " you're following me". Right?

Ciao

- viole

 

[AdamRaja]

Of course I am following you. How could I not follow someone who believes I was born muslim?

By the way, your following me does not mean anything. I guess you meant " you're following me".

Ciao

- viole

Ok. I respect and value all your beliefs and non beliefs. However, neither of us are growing in anyway from our banter and it is a waste of time. I appreciate you and wish only the best for you. I am just kindly letting you know that I won't be responding to your messages any longer.

 

[viole]

Ok. I respect and value all your beliefs and non beliefs. However, neither of us are growing in anyway from our banter and it is a waste of time. I appreciate you and wish only the best for you. I am just kindly letting you know that I won't be responding to your messages any longer.

I see. I cannot hold it against you.

I would do the same if I were in your position. Wise decision, really.

Would you like me to unfollow you? No problem for me.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Shadow Wolf]

e are all born christian.

I was "born again" into Christianity, but I wasn't born a Christian either.

 

[FirstandAmistad]

Do you have children? If you don't, imagine that you do. Do you teach your children the tenants of Islam? Do you teach them the message in the Quran and what you see as the right way to live by your god?

If you have to teach them, how can they have been born Muslim?

I think I understand where the sentiment comes from, though. That we're all born "right" with god, but due to human nature will be led astray and need to learn how to be "right" again? (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not very knowledgeable about Islam)

It reminds me of the common Christian belief that we're all born with Original Sin and need to learn of and accept Jesus to be made "right". Perhaps a bit more optimistic in some ways, though, since it wouldn't assume newborns are damned at birth.

 

[AdamRaja]

If you have to teach them, how can they have been born Muslim?

In Islam..
We believe that if a person was born and left alone and never knew anyone (including parents) or had any outside influence they would live within Islam. Sure they wouldn't have a Quran but they would be living by it unknowingly.

So we teach the Quran for one to share the wisdom we obtained and now to also reassure faith after outside influence. I live in the South of the United States.. Land of crosses and confederate flags so it is quiet the obstacle.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We believe that if a person was born and left alone and never knew anyone (including parents) or had any outside influence they would live within Islam. Sure they wouldn't have a Quran but they would be living by it unknowingly.

In the world of science we call them "feral children." They are most certainly not practicing any religion, and with extensive and intensive work they might be able to mentally progress some and assimilate into mainstream culture (literally, they tend to not even walk like those raised around humans). Because they have an extreme lack of human contact while they developed, they don't culturally develop as normal humans. And how can they if they have no one to mirror, imitate, and learn from?

 

[AdamRaja]

In the world of science we call them

So, you're a scientist? That's awesome I love science.. What's your degree in?

 

[Baladas]

We agreed to forget. So, just because we are born Muslim obviously doesn't mean we stay that way due to social environment. This is the test.

I think I understand and I do find it interesting.
Although I can't say that I agree, I do respect your ability to calmly explain your beliefs.

I live in the South of the United States.. Land of crosses and confederate flags so it is quiet the obstacle.

I sympathize with you. The South West has proven difficult enough to a be non-Christian in that I can't imagine living in the South. I would imagine that it would be especially difficult with all of the hatred towards Muslims as a result of bigots and the acts of radicals.

Peace

 

[AdamRaja]

I think I understand and I do find it interesting.
Although I can't say that I agree, I do respect your ability to calmly explain your beliefs.



I sympathize with you. The South West has proven difficult enough to a be non-Christian in that I can't imagine living in the South. I would imagine that it would be especially difficult with all of the hatred towards Muslims as a result of bigots and the acts of radicals.

Peace

Thanks for the kind words, respect, and also your opinion!

 

[stvdv]

Of course it is. You know that.

Your "so no" reply indicated otherwise, hence the check

 

[TransmutingSoul]

In the world of science we call them "feral children." They are most certainly not practicing any religion, and with extensive and intensive work they might be able to mentally progress some and assimilate into mainstream culture (literally, they tend to not even walk like those raised around humans). Because they have an extreme lack of human contact while they developed, they don't culturally develop as normal humans. And how can they if they have no one to mirror, imitate, and learn from?

It see it does requires education to bring out the best in us. Left alone we are an animal and will use our animal instincts to survive.

Regards Tony

 

[james blunt]

Wasn't trying to impress with bold.. I just like it. And if someone's font bothers you then you have a whole other thing going. lol .

Interesting how you didn't use bold in this reply.

There is no such thing as religion , it is all Psuedo Malarkey.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I'm sure everyone will all agree that we are all born Muslim..
lol jk

In Islam everyone is born a Muslim and it is his/hers parents (along with social circles) that bring the child away from Islam.

The Prophet (saws) said that every child is born in Fitrah. In Islam this means a state of purity and connection to God.

When I say God I mean the ultimate force that gives us life not a bearded guy in the clouds.

In Islam it is not looked at as a religion but just the natural way of life. We are the worlds most looked down upon and knowing that raises me up.

What exactly makes you think "We are all born Muslims ?

 

[AdamRaja]

What exactly makes you think "We are all born Muslims ?

Everything I have been saying lol.